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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17378 |
Never mind, could be worse. I bet it's not easy to fit a different winch in its place. Husky might not go, but I suppose there might be a Red of similar size and footprint.
Warn was so much better before they started "value engineering" them. |
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6th May 2020 1:47pm |
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Morepower Member Since: 08 Jan 2013 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 630 |
@Blackwolf "value engineered winch for a value engineered car"... What could possibly go wrong......... It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse...
2013 Bowler 110 (Sold) 2016 Bowler 90 Rally Spec (Sold) |
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6th May 2020 2:57pm |
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Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638 |
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-- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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7th May 2020 10:27am |
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spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4660 |
Gerry McGovern has "left" JLR and JLR have bought INEOS......yeah then I woke up but it was a good dream while it lasted. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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7th May 2020 4:02pm |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17378 |
At least you didn't suggest that Ineos had head-hunted McGovern away from Landrover!
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7th May 2020 4:53pm |
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spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4660 |
My dreams are usually grounded in reality 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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7th May 2020 4:57pm |
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Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 |
JLR having anything to do with INEOS would be a nightmare. JLR "buying" Bowler was bad enough. These companies exist because of the way JLR is, they are a foil. Bringing them together can only snuff out everything that is good about them. |
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8th May 2020 5:18am |
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markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2636 |
My dreams are normally grounded by the missus Well mostly. |
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8th May 2020 6:58am |
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J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3395 |
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9th May 2020 9:05am |
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tango90 Member Since: 26 Apr 2020 Location: Kildare Posts: 33 |
Is it me or does everything McGovern has designed looks like it has had the roof chopped and dropped, there is too much body in relation to glass?
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9th May 2020 9:30am |
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blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17378 |
No, It is not you, they do. Ghastly!
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9th May 2020 10:22am |
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spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4660 |
Out of curiosity I had a look at the pricing of the new Defender over here.
The basic 90 starts at €59410 (£51882) and the base spec 110 comes in at €68160 (£59524) before the dealer adds on their delivery charge etc. That is for the base 2 litre engine.The road tax will be €1200 (£1047) per year The road tax on the 300 PS petrol will be be €2350 (£2052) per year.This is based on the CO2 figures. If the Greens get into government that will no doubt increase. The cost of that base vehicle fitted with the 300 PS engine will set you back €76215 (£66658) . The cost of adding even basics like mudflaps, tow bar and mats soon adds up. A detachable tow bar comes in at €1140 (£995) which is a lot for a tow bar. They say there is a commercial variant scheduled to arrive in late 2020. Wonder how many they will sell? It is definitely aimed at a different customer base than the old Defender. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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9th May 2020 2:56pm |
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Morepower Member Since: 08 Jan 2013 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 630 |
@Spudfan.... The "commercial' version is basically the same as a D5... So it's not really a commercial... It qualifies for commercial VED... However, Not the more important waiver for BIK or VAT.... I've looked into this in depth and posted the details before.... have a look at my posts
Regards Tim It doesn't matter how bad it is, It can always get worse... 2013 Bowler 110 (Sold) 2016 Bowler 90 Rally Spec (Sold) |
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10th May 2020 7:58am |
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Green Machine Member Since: 19 Nov 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1226 |
It is really starting to grow on me now. That pic J77 posted of the white '90' from that angle looks pretty good! I still have a problem with the headlights in their recessed open 'boxes' and the interior exposed bolt heads, but maybe I just need more time!
Still think the DC100 concept looked better, but concepts usually do look better than the finished production vehicle. 2005 Td5 | 90 Station Wagon | Tonga Green |
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10th May 2020 8:07am |
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