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| V8GPC Member Since: 18 Jul 2016 Location: Manchester Posts: 289  
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Do you have a single indicator direction lamp on your warning panel rather than one for each direction?
If you do then the circuit relies on the filament in the indicator lamps to provide a ground. LEDs (diodes) work in one direction so no longer provide the ground The side repeaters (filaments) were probably still doing this, now you have LEDs all round there isn't a sufficient ground anymore. There is a fix for this https://boltonbits.co.uk/rdx-earth-fix-kit...ators.html https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RDX-Earth-Fix-K...2280619868 You could put both your side repeaters back to filament lamps to prove this is the issue before spending the cash. |
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28th Apr 2020 6:03am |
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| grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4786 
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I'd say the same. I had a similar issue with my 110, same fix but I made the earth path myself
 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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28th Apr 2020 6:54am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
LR using lamp filament as earth path ( PPE) on tdi 200 and 300 indicate panel
 Click image to enlarge small mod using diodes and wire Click image to enlarge
https://www.lrworkshop.com/connectors/defender-1996-300tdi/C230 green- white c230-9 -------- c230 -10 green -red Last edited by dorsetsmith on 29th Apr 2020 4:32pm. Edited 3 times in total |
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28th Apr 2020 8:30am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6611 
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As a quick check, disconnect the warning light panel to remove the indicator warning light bulb from the circuits
 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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28th Apr 2020 10:28am |
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| barrowg Member Since: 31 May 2016 Location: Surrey Posts: 236 
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Perfect thank you all. Is there a quick fix, just to add a ground or connect to a ground to fix the issue? I’m not the best with wiring so will need a simple break down  |
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28th Apr 2020 11:43am |
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| V8GPC Member Since: 18 Jul 2016 Location: Manchester Posts: 289
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The easy fix is to buy the part, but not the cheapest. (pounds)
The alternative is the two diodes and small wire (pence) but you need a little electric know how |
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29th Apr 2020 1:04pm |
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| barrowg Member Since: 31 May 2016 Location: Surrey Posts: 236
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I don’t really want to spend £35 on earthing them, so is the diode way simple enough to do or will I need a bit more expertise?
Cheers all |
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29th Apr 2020 1:54pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6611
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You would only need the one lamp kit, not two. It's a replacement warning panel light.
The fix that dorsetsmith gave above requires doing this: Cut Green/White and Green/Red indicator supplies to the warning light connector (leaving enough wire on the connector to work with) Connect the Green/Red tail from the white connector to a ground (nut on the back of the gauges is good) Solder the anode of two diodes to each of the Green/White and Green/Red coming from the bulkhead loom. Join the cathodes together, then connect to the Green/White tail on the white connector. This combines the two indicator warning light feeds for a single lamp without the issue of back-powering the opposite side. 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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29th Apr 2020 2:01pm |
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| Grouse Member Since: 16 Apr 2012 Location: on the hill Posts: 521 |
@BarrowG check your Flasher relay - I had exactly the same issue with both indicators being on and the relay was damp inside - visual condensation. I took it off, dried it out and sprayed with WD40 then re-sealed it.
This cured the issue and cost nothing 2017 Range Rover L405 Vogue SE V8 Diesel #16 Land Rover 110 300 TDI |
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29th Apr 2020 2:05pm |
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| barrowg Member Since: 31 May 2016 Location: Surrey Posts: 236
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Thanks very much Martin doesn’t seem too hard at all. |
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29th Apr 2020 2:42pm |
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| barrowg Member Since: 31 May 2016 Location: Surrey Posts: 236
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Cheers I will check this first. Where will I find the flasher relay? I do have a spare that came with my new wipacs when the others broke so could just swap them out |
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29th Apr 2020 2:43pm |
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| barrowg Member Since: 31 May 2016 Location: Surrey Posts: 236
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Click image to enlarge Hi all so I’ve just had a look and tried the different tests. I disconnect the white clip shown above and same problem happened so that could mean it isn’t the ground? I also read up else where that it could be the hazards causing a problem. To follow up on what @Martin said about cutting wires and diodes I can’t seem to see a white/green or a green/red wire. Am I being stupid and looking in the wrong place? Cheers |
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29th Apr 2020 3:39pm |
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| barrowg Member Since: 31 May 2016 Location: Surrey Posts: 236
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The indicator warning light has also now stopped working before taking off the white clip?
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29th Apr 2020 3:44pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6611
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You’ll find them on the other flat white plug.
Green/White and Green/Red
Did you try the flasher relay? 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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29th Apr 2020 3:57pm |
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