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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Puma spot light switch wiring.
I have some IPF spot lights to go on and they come with their own loom. However, the supplied switch is aweful, so want to get genuine switch to fill the gap on the dash. The IPF switch has three wires, feed from high beam circuit, output to spot relay and an earth. Can I just cut it off and wire to the LR switch, or does LR onefunction differently? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Alien



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The earth wire will be for the light in the IPF switch so is not needed if swapping to a different switch.
I use one of these(and an aircomp and winch)switchs...
http://www.expeditioncentre.com.au/auxilia...02-onwards
They use 4 wires, earth/parkers/high beam/light output, this gives it a background light as the other factory switch do and a little orange light when switched on. Cheers,
Kyle.
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Bluest



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Thanks, I've ordered one of these already https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222573645338 I hope the price isn't reflected in the quality Very Happy

I'm assuming it will be easy enough to get a parking light feed from one of the adjacent switches. Is there a wiring diagram showing which pins do what? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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What do you mean by parking light feed? I'm assuming you mean dash illumination? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Bluest



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Yes, the feed that will illuminate the switch at night. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
Post #643403 12th Aug 2017 10:14am
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Alien



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There should be a plug and wiring code(ie, what pin does what) supplied with the switch.
The earth and parking feed are the same on all the similar switches so finding those wires is easy.
The remaining 2 pins will be input and output for your lights to connect to the IPF loom. Cheers,
Kyle.
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custom90



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The cigarette lighter feed is a good option.
The Orange I believe it is, IIRC. (You can easily distinguish.)

The whole thing uses spade connectors of different sizes, you can make a plug and play loom in between these to take your feed without cutting any wiring at all.

The power and earth feed are standard size blade terminals, the illumination smaller of which I can't remember the size off the top of my head.

With a few of those spades and some suitable gauge wire it's easily posssible.

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If you take a look and check measurements you'll see what I mean, just make a three wire male / female loom extension and take your tap feed from that.
Ensure the power and earth feed to the socket is rated above the fuse rating for the lighter socket also.

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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
My genuine style (made in Taiwan) switch arrived today. Appears decent quality. I've found this wiring diagram...



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Any comments before I go ahead? It would be handy if I could get the correct female connector block to go into the switch. The pins are pretty tiny and might look a bit of a mess and be easily bent if I use little spade connectors or something. Is it available? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Bluest



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The connector I need is here. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-5-Way...0227.m3827

It's all coming together nicely 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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greenlandrover



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I bought a genuine wiring loom for a good price off fleaBay. Pretty good value when you factor in all the parts.

It needed a bit of modifying and slightly different routing but it's done the job (I think it's a Td5 one)

I've uploaded the various genuine accessory instructions I referred to here: -

https://1drv.ms/f/s!Akx3E9kPwVCed93dlw3ISL1l1zc

Hope they help. Keep us posted on your progress.


Jason
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
I've had to do a surprising amount of butchery to the IPF loom to get it work with the LR switch. The IPF loom is designed for a switch which will supply the live to energise the relay, but the Defender switch is designed to work on the earth side of the relay if that makes any sense at all! Plus I needed to add a feed back from the relay to activate the light in the switch. Anyway, it's all sorted now ready to go in the car tomorrow if the weather is dry. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Bluest



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All wired up and working. Just need to properly align the lights. The cheapi Bearmach switch works a treat wired as per the diagram above.



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 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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iestyn999



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Sorry to dig up an old thread!
You said you made modifications to get the little orange light to work... what did you do?
I'm trying to replace an old winch rocker switch with a genuine switch. The little orange light doesn't work At all and when intirn the switch on, the dash light/ green bulb goes off!! ๐Ÿค” the instructions from mudstuff are pretty useless as they show 2 different diagrams, one of which blows the fuse!
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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
Donโ€™t quote me on this, as itโ€™s been a long time.... I think I had to run a wire spliced into the spotlight live feed from from relay. This wire was run back to the dash and used to energise the led on the switch only when the spots are illuminated. I think. I think it marked as UY on the diagram above.

On an unrelated note, the Bearmach switch has not held up. Iโ€™m on my second one, first replaced under warranty. First the backlight failed then the LED stopped working. The replacement has now done the same. Iโ€™ve got s genuine LR one now waiting to go in. Buy cheap, buy thrice 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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iestyn999



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Hmmm... come to think of it, I think I might have ordered a headache rather than a genuine one. I can't remember. Perhaps the switch is faulty then
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