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Ndamico



Member Since: 03 Apr 2019
Location: Canada
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Canada 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Alpine White
Def 110 td5 mileage
Hoping for some help. Have 200kms on it. Seems to run great but get about 16mpg max. I'm new to the td5 so here is how its setup, some of which I know doesnt help mileage. I dont have a fast tune in it and dont hot rod the car. It's an overland vehicle so lots of trails and freeway stuff getting there. I usually run 70MPH on the freeway. Any reason why the mileage is so poor?



Stock gears with Ashcroft lockers

1.4 tcase

35x12.50r17 maxxis razr MT

Exocage

2" lift

Ashcroft underdrive

BAS intercooler

MANN pro vent

Turbo technics VGT from BAS

Storm tuning

Egr removed

Cat removed

Stainless exhaust

82*C thermostat

Nanocom

New fuel pump

New alternator

New silicone coolant hoses

New pressure regulator

new alternator

New injector harness

new water pump 04 110 TD5
Post #822090 29th Mar 2020 4:24pm
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4RF RDS



Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Ottawa
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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
Sounds about right for all those mods. Tuned ECU and the big tires with the lift kill it. Big Cry 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Post #822095 29th Mar 2020 4:48pm
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landy andy



Member Since: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Ware, Herts
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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
The 70 figure and most of the list after it are the cause of the mpg. đź‘Ťđź‘Ť
Post #822098 29th Mar 2020 4:54pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Other than a MAF sensor? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #822107 29th Mar 2020 5:31pm
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Ndamico



Member Since: 03 Apr 2019
Location: Canada
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Canada 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Alpine White
i see people saying they get 30MPG. is that bogus? i'd be happy with 20 if others get 30. 04 110 TD5
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BaronDefenders



Member Since: 28 Jun 2019
Location: London/Cotswolds
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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Santorini Black
I have seen 30mpg in the past but usually average around 24/25mpg. Charlie

1949 Series 1 80 (SOLD)
2002 Td5 90 (SOLD)
2008 Freelander 2 (SOLD)

1958 Series 2 88 Pastel Green (2019 LR Legends Best Restored)
1983 V8 110 Limestone (Previously owned by Tom Sheppard MBE)
2004 Td5 90 Santorini Black (Td5INSIDE Powered & Rebuilt by CSK)
2012 Puma 110 Zermatt Silver (Overlanding Build)

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Post #822140 29th Mar 2020 7:05pm
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Ndamico



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Canada 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Alpine White
what rpm does the engine like to run at? 04 110 TD5
Post #822143 29th Mar 2020 7:06pm
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BaronDefenders



Member Since: 28 Jun 2019
Location: London/Cotswolds
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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Santorini Black
At 70mph, I’m just shy of 2,400rpm in 5th. That’s with 1.2 transferbox gear set and 285/75/R16 tyres. Seems to sit very happily at that speed/rpm. Charlie

1949 Series 1 80 (SOLD)
2002 Td5 90 (SOLD)
2008 Freelander 2 (SOLD)

1958 Series 2 88 Pastel Green (2019 LR Legends Best Restored)
1983 V8 110 Limestone (Previously owned by Tom Sheppard MBE)
2004 Td5 90 Santorini Black (Td5INSIDE Powered & Rebuilt by CSK)
2012 Puma 110 Zermatt Silver (Overlanding Build)

Instagram: @BaronDefenders
Post #822158 29th Mar 2020 8:03pm
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Silvertoolbox



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5th gear and 35 mph (56 kph) should be about as economical as is possible when driving a shed... Ex scottish & southern 110 Td5 van (shed) with PTO driven winch (L-R special vehicles)
Before that, Disco 1, Freelander 1, 26105382 80" with a 1600cc (not much slower)
Post #822159 29th Mar 2020 8:13pm
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miker



Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
US or UK gallons?

I get 25 mpg (UK) out of mine when I'm not trying to drive economically, and that's with a lift, 265/75 tyres and a roofrack. That equates to 21mpg (US). Your figure doesn't sound too far off the mark with the lift, cage, bigger tyres and driving at 70.

Currently I'm getting near 30mpg (UK) out of it, but I haven't been over 55mph in about 3 weeks!
Post #822181 29th Mar 2020 10:00pm
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Ndamico



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Canada 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Alpine White
Hi, yes USA mpg. I swapped the km speedo for a MPH one. It reads about 3m mph slow at 70 but that's pretty close. 04 110 TD5
Post #822193 30th Mar 2020 3:48am
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roel



Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
Location: Lelystad
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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
My long time average is just below 8km/ltr so approx 18 mpg US. Most on 235 85 BFG MT's and some on 35"Simexes and off-road driving.


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Speed is the main killer stay below 90 km/hr and you save a lot. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #822237 30th Mar 2020 11:12am
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4RF RDS



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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
I have a very mildly tuned ECU (no smoke at all) everything else is stock. No suspension mods nothing. I have a Roamerdrive as well. I get 27-28 mpg. I can get 30 but that is with a Very conservative throttle foot and keeping it under 100kph. Which I can almost never do. Laughing 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Post #822262 30th Mar 2020 1:39pm
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roel



Member Since: 08 Aug 2009
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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
I believe that if you calculate with the UK gallon 4.54 ltr but not if you use the us gallon 3.78 ltr. Roel

1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001)
1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009)
2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts.
2003 90 Td5 (2009-now)
Post #822290 30th Mar 2020 3:47pm
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4RF RDS



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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
As the UK is a former colony of Canada Rolling with laughter We too once used the same “Imperial” gallon but alas we, like the rest of the free world, moved to litres decades ago unlike the UK and the united states of hysteria. Laughing

So yes its is the 4.5 litre gallon as a comparator Thumbs Up 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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