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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 866   
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I'm looking at the option of strengthening the axle casings for the 130, I'll be running a standard front and rear 4 pin from a TDCI. Rover casings don't have the best reputation and fully laden 130 could put an awful lot of strain on one....
I've seen the following available from Xcess4x4 and Terrafirma, but the Xcess ones are £160 when you take into account postage, which is more than I can bring myself to spend. 
I'm pretty handy with a welder, and could plasma cut some out of some box of the right size, but before I go ahead I wondered if anyone had any experience? 1985 127 V8 Build Thread Series 2 109" Series 1 80" Last edited by Shroppy on 28th Feb 2020 9:24am. Edited 1 time in total |
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27th Feb 2020 7:57am |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674  
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Wolf axles were upgraded in a similar style due to the axle casings cracking during trials, the 110 and 130 both received the upgraded axle and I’ve never seen one snap, the r-wmik plus has a different axle again but I think it came in over £2500 when I costed one at work (wasn’t for a broken one I was just curious). 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html
90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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27th Feb 2020 8:12am |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 866
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I did try and track down a pair of wolf axles like those below but in the end decided the more cost effective route would be to strengthen normal ones...
I'm tempted to go with either top or top and bottom reinforcement as opposed to the bottom reinforcement as employed by the wolf type axles. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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27th Feb 2020 9:05am |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 866
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I looked at sleeving them internally but the cost far outstrips the benefit IMO. I think the xcess 4x4 kit might be the way to go... 1985 127 V8 Build Thread
Series 2 109" Series 1 80" Last edited by Shroppy on 28th Feb 2020 7:23pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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27th Feb 2020 11:58am |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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weld on diff guard would make it stronger too as they have a 3/4" steel brace around the diff face.
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27th Feb 2020 7:44pm |
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| Moneypit Member Since: 27 Feb 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 271 
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Mate fitted a Terrafirma one, very heavy and poor fitting, took whole day to fettle
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27th Feb 2020 8:30pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2178 
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Xcess ones are Domex. Much lighter and much stronger than steel, also a far better fit. Being tested on all years of LRs and feedback reported, design adjusted.
TF have just bent some steel that may or may not fit. Instagram @defender_ventures Empire Tuning - Agent |
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27th Feb 2020 8:44pm |
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| mikeh501 Member Since: 07 Jan 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1142
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ive got a pair of the D44 ones. I didnt weld them up, but the guy didnt mention any problems. Sturdy bit of kit.
https://www.devon4x4.com/techpdf/Product%2...le_LRM.pdf |
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27th Feb 2020 9:00pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8053  
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The d44 one is just a diff guard rather than strengthening. Couple of lads running the Ashcroft force 9s sleeved their axles for strength. Tube being very strong and all that, find the tight size id and od tube, drift it in the weld end faces to axle case. Cant see that as more expensive than bracing the axle. I believe acerni do a kit, is it not part of there cool over setup too? Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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27th Feb 2020 9:16pm |
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| Moneypit Member Since: 27 Feb 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 271
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Tomcat motorsport do an axle tubing kit too
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27th Feb 2020 10:05pm |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 866
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Hmm, not sure which way to go then....
I agree the TF ones aren't anything special and if i were to go down that route then I'd just buy some box and chop it to suit with the plasma. The Xcess ones are lovely but £160 is more than I think I can justify... Sleeving is looking like an increasingly good option, I need to speak to Dave Ashcroft today anyway so I'll ask him if he can shed any light on size of tube etc. 1985 127 V8 Build Thread Series 2 109" Series 1 80" |
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28th Feb 2020 8:08am |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2178
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Buy top quality and save yourself a load of fab work!
Im considering them as well Instagram @defender_ventures Empire Tuning - Agent |
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28th Feb 2020 8:21am |
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| Shroppy Member Since: 25 Feb 2016 Location: Shropshire Posts: 866
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We could ask for a group buy discount?
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28th Feb 2020 8:38am |
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| Nigel Barker Member Since: 28 Feb 2020 Location: Costa Del Haslemere Posts: 7 
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You could ask for a group discount ................
Hello All, I am Nige from Xcess 4x4 and was pointed to this thread by Mate Mr Mo Murphy. 
If a few of you decide you wnat to go for the kits, post up here and I'll see what sort of discounts I can do, always up for a deal .. JUST BESAR IN MIND the kits will fit all 90s and defenders, but will NOT fit 110 / 127 / 130 rears without you making mods etc. We looked doing 110 back axles etc, but with all things CNC its the set up costs vs volume, and as such we decided 90s and defenders only and never did the 110 rear axles. Customers HAVE bought the kits and made them fit, but its only fair to warn that we spendt a lot of time making them decent fit and time to do 110s just isn't there as I am on another project for the last few months which we will be launching soon ! .. If you are interested then post up and when i see how many I will see what I can do, and yes we can ship abroad LOL Nige |
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28th Feb 2020 9:16am |
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