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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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"On the surface, turning off your engine whenever waiting in a car – be it when picking the kids up from school, or stuck in a traffic jam – seems like a sensible idea. When an engine is switched off, it doesn’t emit anything. However, the full story is more complex.
... restarting a warm engine emits 4.5 times more hydrocarbon gases, 19 times more nitrogen oxides, and 390 times more carbon monoxide than 30 seconds of idling. Restarting a cold engine is even worse, emitting nearly 1,000 times more carbon monoxide and 760 times more nitrogen oxides than idling for half a minute. According to these figures, you could leave the engine running for ten minutes before emitting as much nitrogen oxide as if you had switched off and restarted the engine. For carbon monoxide, the figure is nearly eight hours." https://airqualitynews.com/2019/06/14/want...engine-on/ |
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24th Feb 2020 7:51am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17539 
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That's interesting, so much for stop-start being clean!
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24th Feb 2020 8:12am |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2532 
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Thanks Supacat for that interesting information. Most of the arguments between SWMBO and myself are around driving and driving style. The first thing I do after pressing the start button in her car is to switch off the auto stop start. Whilst I didn't have any solid evidence to back up my actions I always suspected that auto stop start was not the answer to stopping urban pollution. Also nothing worse than the engine cutting out at a roundabout just when you want to floor the throttle to nip into that gap.
I did ask my local JLR dealer to programme out the ASS system but said it was not possible so I would just have to manually switch it off every time I press the start button. Thank goodness the Defender isn't fitted with ASS.  Defender 90XS SW
Mini Countryman Cooper S Morgan Plus 8 |
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24th Feb 2020 9:14am |
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| OsloBlue Member Since: 14 Jul 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 824 
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The People who complain the most are often the biggest contributors. We have a site round the corner from a school in Kensington, and we aren't allowed deliveries until 10:00 and not after 02:30 due to omissions. Yet you walk past this school and Mums on the school runs in XC90s, Q7s, G class, G wagens, Range rovers is ridiculous, even when they live within walking distance.
My friends had a nissan Qashqai with stop - start technology, which was alright until the starter went, nothing like taking it to the garage for a repair and you sit at the lights revving the nuts off it to prevent it cutting out... This honestly doesn't surprise me. Electric and Hybrid cars pollute far more across the life span of the vehicle than a internal combustion engine Vehicle, due to the various Specialist Materials required for lithium ion batteries. there is a Toyota stockpile of old Hybrids that just sit there because they cannot be sold as the batteries are gone, but can't be recycled... ICE vehicles will always exist unless batteries quintuple their capacitance, and cut their weight tenfold, as HGVs will due to the square cubed law never be able to compete with ICE, unless they all become trolleybus like things... I'd much prefer a hydrogen fuel cell or hydrogen combustion. Honestly technology is becoming so advanced these days that there are devices in testing that can suck CO² out of the Air, Mix with H²O, and let out Hyrdocarbons and oxygen/Ozone... I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/ Current: TD5 '110 "Lucinda" Thread here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic62562.html  |
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24th Feb 2020 9:21am |
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| benniferj Member Since: 20 Oct 2016 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 361
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And also, if I anti-idled my 200tdi too often, I'm gonna get caught out by its slow starter motor / earth issue and probably not start again so easy
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24th Feb 2020 9:27am |
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| OsloBlue Member Since: 14 Jul 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 824
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Know that feeling, To think i went three months by dropping a massive spanner through the engine block to get started...
Really embarrassing for £100 worth of parts and Work Especially when trying to pull away fro the pumps at the garage. I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/ Current: TD5 '110 "Lucinda" Thread here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic62562.html |
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24th Feb 2020 10:47am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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"Nitrogen dioxide levels can be 10 times over the legal limit inside your car. We have created the first proven technology to clean it!"
a study by King’s College London in 2013 found that an ambulance driver was exposed to much higher levels of particulate matter than a cycle courier, both of which worked in busy areas of London during the day. It's thought that vehicle cabins trap air pollution, meaning those in cars are breathing in higher levels of toxic air than those outside. I wonder why I don't know more about this product? Or why car manufacturers are not incorporating things like this into their models? Airbubbl: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/56442...ee-zone-in Click image to enlarge |
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24th Feb 2020 10:53am |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3535 
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That is a really interesting article
Thank you for sharing. |
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24th Feb 2020 11:38am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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If the courier gets less poisoning then we should all be driving around in convertible cars....... or cycling in town..... Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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24th Feb 2020 12:11pm |
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