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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149   
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I mean emergency in the sense of yoh would only do it if you don't have the proper strap with loops at both ends. You are right you have to get it fairly tight before tensioning it iirc. 2011 110 USW
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16th Jan 2020 2:05pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Well I'll obviously have to disagree with "every bit as secure", even knowing that the alloys aren't sharp, the right angle returns with no protection will damage both wheels and straps, then there's the fact that the non ratchet end will never tension correctly. Look at any professional load restraint course and that would be used as an exemplar of how not to do it.
I've got no evidence to go, but I would expect a road check by DVSA to pull this and issue advisory/prohibit. I'm puzzled how you can get to safe, when you have acknowledged the liklihood of damaging the wheels when the are being used as one fixed point of the load restraint and damaging them in the process of securing the load can never be deemed a safe practice. Your amusement comes from where? |
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16th Jan 2020 5:19pm |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279  
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It’s so simple to have dedicated wheelstraps in the car 24/7, especially if you’re testing a car.
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16th Jan 2020 5:33pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3708 
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Perhaps it was just being moved a short distance on private land? 130's have feeling's as well you know
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16th Jan 2020 5:45pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17418 
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It won't damage the straps (assuming they're of adequate capacity) and it is entirely possible to tension them correctly. It is unusual practice and I wouldn't say good practice, but the only thing likely to suffer (assuming no sharp edges) is the finish on the wheels, and if the owner chooses to muller them it is entirely down to him or her. If it isn't the owner doing it, I agree it totally changes the assessment.
My amusement stems from your apparent outrage about the approach, which seems extreme. |
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16th Jan 2020 5:54pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8044  
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i bet it doesnt fall off. Cheers
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16th Jan 2020 9:04pm |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674  
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Minimum way I’d ever strap a vehicle down, in the case of a defender etc an additional two straps through my jate rings pulled the chassis down and reduced body roll.
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16th Jan 2020 9:24pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Capacity is another issue - I'm sure the full round wrap does nothing positive for retained strength. As to being able to tension them correctly, by which I mean equally to reduce the level of snatching, I was thinking of the Euler-Eytelwein equation*: This relates to the tension of the two ends of the rope: T2 = T1 eμθ, where T2 is the tension in the rope due to the load it's supporting, T1 is the tension necessary to hold the load without slipping, μ is the coefficient of friction between the rope and the pipe, and θ is the total angle (measured in radians) made by all the windings of the rope (one full winding is 2∏ radians). The tension force increases exponentially with the coefficient of friction and the number of turns around the pipe. *never heard of this before, although I'm very familiar with the effect - as will anyone who has ever used a a capstan winch.
https://sciencedemonstrations.fas.harvard....round-pole
That's an awfully big leap from (I assume?) the word "numpty"? I think the truth is I've seen too many posters like this, been involved in near miss reporting, and now it's a "happy habit": Click image to enlarge |
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18th Jan 2020 10:12am |
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| Defender SVX Member Since: 29 Jan 2009 Location: Co Durham Posts: 728 
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Obviously no one on here has ever looked at a loaded car transporter
The guys on that job are given 9 minutes to check,load and strap down the cars and many can do it in far less! It’s recommended they use 2 chocks and 2 wheel straps but most won’t bother. Personally I’d always lash the 4 wheels but classed as overkill by some. Agree that the original post could have been fastened to look more professional. My method hasn’t failed me yet. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Formerly mao99999 16 Focus RS Nitrous Blue. 11 FFRR TDV8 Vouge SE Black Black. 08 DEFENDER SVX SOFT TOP (SUPERB) 08 DEFENDER 110 DCPU Stornoway grey (Overland Exploration Unit) 05 Fiesta ST 150 Van 04 Jaguar XKR 4.2 Supercharged V8 02 DEFENDER 90 TD5 (next years soft top project) 95 DEFENDER 110 CSW 300 TDi Phoenix black 95 DEFENDER 90 HT Monti Carlo blue COUNTY 300 TDi 67 109" SERIES 2a TUNED 200 TDI 64 DAVID BROWN 990 rat look 55 86" SERIES 1 |
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18th Jan 2020 12:04pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I take my inspiration from examples like this:
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19th Jan 2020 7:44am |
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