Tim in Scotland wrote:

The New Defender showcases several new tech items for JLR but surely they missed on one extra that many many people look to fit these days - front and rear dash cams. Surely with all the cameras fitted as standard and all the computing ability it wouldn’t have been too hard to add a recording function and memory to the surround cam system - a sort of venture cam for the 2020’s instead of the 1980’s. Just imagine the mark up they could have for electronically inserting a digital Land Rover signature to the video as well! When your New Defender has been stolen a ‘see through’ bonnet or clearview rear view mirror isn’t much use but cams that communicates with your Land Rover app could well be.

Widget wrote:

Nope.

Only three European countries have an outright ban. (Portugal, Austria, Luxembourg).

blackwolf wrote:

How do you know that camera-equipped New Defenders don't record? You have absolutely no idea what vehicle data is recorded and accessible remotely nowadays. The fact that the driver/owner doesn't have access to it or know about it doesn't mean that it isn't collected.

The range and scope of the data that some vehicles collect (and send to manufacturers and others) is quite disturbing. Post accident data on some US vehicles includes which seats were occupied and the mass of the person in the seat, for example.

Bluest wrote:

It is almost certain the car itself logs a lot of data onboard, but that shouldn't go anywhere unless specifically accessed by say the cops after a bump.

Bluest wrote:

blackwolf wrote:

How do you know that camera-equipped New Defenders don't record? You have absolutely no idea what vehicle data is recorded and accessible remotely nowadays. The fact that the driver/owner doesn't have access to it or know about it doesn't mean that it isn't collected.

The range and scope of the data that some vehicles collect (and send to manufacturers and others) is quite disturbing. Post accident data on some US vehicles includes which seats were occupied and the mass of the person in the seat, for example.

I can't speak for the US, but the GDPR regs in Europe are very strict, companies can't collect personal data without your permission.The stuff going back to the manufacturer routinely, whatever it is, must be anonymous unless you've signed something to say otherwise. I'm not saying they don't collect it, but the owner must give their permission at some point and there must be something in place to make sure it stops if the car changes hands. It is almost certain the car itself logs a lot of data onboard, but that shouldn't go anywhere unless specifically accessed by say the cops after a bump. Again, JLR wouldn't be able to just investigate your crash without your permission, the exception being if they can do it without identifying you.

I'm doubtful they would routinely collect video data even if they are allowed to. It requires a lot of electronic storage and transmission which is still expensive.

blackwolf wrote:

How do you know that camera-equipped New Defenders don't record? You have absolutely no idea what vehicle data is recorded and accessible remotely nowadays. The fact that the driver/owner doesn't have access to it or know about it doesn't mean that it isn't collected.

The range and scope of the data that some vehicles collect (and send to manufacturers and others) is quite disturbing. Post accident data on some US vehicles includes which seats were occupied and the mass of the person in the seat, for example.

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Jurors were also told a Land Rover Discovery belonging to Mr Whall's partner had a system which recorded data of its use and showed the vehicle being used in the area for a recce the night before the shooting and then at the time Mr Corrigan was shot.

As well as tracking the car's location, the device also had details such as when the car was locked and unlocked, when a door or the boot was opened and closed, and each time the engine was switched on and off.

The car was found two weeks later burnt out at a disused quarry near Bangor and the defendant said it had been stolen.

While the system was destroyed in the fire, the information about its movements was retained centrally by Jaguar Land Rover.

Supacat wrote:

Here's interesting new tech:
Thoughts?