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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829   
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Huttopia, you really think that JLR, with their electrics ‘pedigree’ will sort out the gremlins in 85ECUs within two years? Who spiked your drink last night?  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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26th Oct 2019 6:59am |
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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 280  
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..with great confidence, i can say that you have no idea what are you talking about, when we talk about ECU's, especially military/high end industrial grade one..if you trying to convince anyone here that consumer/automotive market uses same grade MCU's as military does, you are living in a dreamworld...BMW/Audi/Merc has 100+ ECU's?? Name to me just 40 of them, and purpose they serve?? Did you really mean ECU's or SENSORS. Im curious to know. As someone who design industrial grade electronics and firmware for it (mainly oil and gas and CNC machines), i can tell you that what you have said just now is completely false.. |
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28th Oct 2019 12:52am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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The ECUs don’t seem to be a problem with L322 FFRR, Disco3 or4, RRS L320’sAnd L494’s, Evoques and DiscoSports that we increasing see coming along to offroad days (some of which involve wading or deep mud drives) and some of the D3’s and D4’s get far more abuse than many of the Defenders on these days. I don’t think that it is going to be a problem for most of the market JLR sees as buying New Defender.
In my experience ECU’s are the least of the problem areas for modern Land Rovers used offroad - Electric Parking brakes that clog up with muck and debris and salesmen telling people that you will get through whatever the conditions in your car fitted with low profile all season tyres and Terrain Response. Some of the modern systems are no let down by the vehicle or tyres, they are let down by the driver who hasn’t a clue how to use the systems in his hands - he was sold a car that allegedly could go anywhere without modification straight out of the showroom. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 28th Oct 2019 10:22am. Edited 2 times in total |
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28th Oct 2019 10:10am |
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| Huttopia Member Since: 23 Feb 2016 Location: West Midlands Posts: 1972 
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Fair point! It's not all that far fetched though. We all need a bit of good news in these rather dark days and against all the odds, flying in the face of perceived wisdom and chalking up a triumph for hope over experience, my P38 has just passed it's MOT with no advisories. It feels like I've won the lottery and a date with Danni Minogue. |
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28th Oct 2019 10:18am |
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| familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481 
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Anyone ordered black? It’s nearly finished ...
 Click image to enlarge 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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28th Oct 2019 4:06pm |
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| mikelike Member Since: 31 Aug 2011 Location: new zealand Posts: 108 |
THATS a 1998 Freelander 1 !
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28th Oct 2019 8:44pm |
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| ids Member Since: 06 Jun 2019 Location: Forest of Dean Posts: 35
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As usual for the internet someone wants to know the detail. Check a Merc S class for instance.... I am not trying to say they all have that number. Of course not.... but things move on very quickly. I did not say they have Military grade ECU's or connectors. I was just trying to say its possible to make waterproof connectors and enclosures. Now in my four fuse SIIa yada.....etc..... |
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28th Oct 2019 8:48pm |
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| adolfy Member Since: 01 Dec 2016 Location: Mid Wales Posts: 58 
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[quote="Stacey007"]So I've been through the configurator and as mentioned elsewhere cannot see £73k and Defender in same sentence...
I have thought....what about a basic as it comes 110. No options, STD trim....like this I found a picture but without the plate holders on the side... Click image to enlarge Is it me or does the rear look like a side view, of the head, of a Doctor Who cyberman? It is just ugly. Jon Interestingly my wife just came into the room and I asked her what she thought, her first question "is it a Mini"  When I told her it was the new pretender her comment was " oh it's got nothing going for it" How right she is! Land Rover 1950 series 1
Land Rover LWB 1967 series 2A Land Rover SWB 1980 series 3 Land Rover 110 Defender 2013 |
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31st Oct 2019 9:41am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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Most basic, no options, white paint (only zero cost paint on base model) and least powerful engine looks like this From the configurator by print screens)
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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31st Oct 2019 10:15am |
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| nidge n Member Since: 04 Feb 2012 Location: Cheshire Posts: 719
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How much did that run to please? To me it looks like a late £20K to £30K product, and sadly i would struggle to buy it at that.
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31st Oct 2019 7:55pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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>£45500 Just speccing the D240 motor instead of the D180 will lift the price to >£51000 - £6000 for an ECU remap is taking the p**s a bit. You want factory fitted recovery points in the rear bumper? That will be >£900 thank you sir, but they are painted orange for that price! Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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31st Oct 2019 11:49pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829
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Could that look any more like a D3 if it tried?  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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1st Nov 2019 7:37am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Is that honestly the only difference? I also wonder how many of those 85 ecus would need to be remapped for the change, engine, gearbox, but what else? |
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1st Nov 2019 7:54am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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As far as I can see on the configurator you also get 19” Alloys if you upgrade to the D240 engine, cannot see that accounting for £4500 of the difference though. Both get basic LED headlights, all the electronics required by regulation, air springs, full suite of TR2 programs and rubber floor covering instead of carpets. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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1st Nov 2019 9:23am |
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