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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841  
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Well worth it, in my opinion.
I fitted one of these, must be 10 or 15 years ago. That's a real 'guess-timate' as I don't know when they came on the market, but a long time. I think there was a slight rattling noise when first fitted - perhaps a common issue - but a blob of silicon somewhere (can't remember) fixed that and it hasn't given me a moment's trouble ever since. I plan to fit a new propshaft soon-ish, and I've thought that I might take the brake off and give it a service, but genuinely it's been on for ages and been great. I went for it because my drum brake was 'catching' in neutral while coasting up to traffic lights, therefore probably catching all the time, just wouldn't notice. There is a thread here where someone said that it was better just to properly adjust the original, and maybe get the drum re-machined. Not arguing with that really, but for me this was a good mod. I can't really see a downside apart from cost maybe. DIY fit? Yep - but on a dry day so your not lying in the wet! Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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29th Sep 2019 9:00am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5804  
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Looks like a good bit of kit.
Ball, another upgrade to the list...  Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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29th Sep 2019 9:57am |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1915  
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Grenadier i think they are fitted to all the challenge trucks, Steve who engineers the x eng stuff claims it will hold with any load or weight as long as you have traction
donmacn i presume you fitted yours to a tdi? i can't seem to find anything on them fitting the puma though 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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29th Sep 2019 12:50pm |
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| Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1599 
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a well maintained and adjusted std handbrake is fine for almost all lr owners i reckon.
we had the x brake on the challenge motor for ease of use and zero maintenance. no issues with mud build up and very effective. i would get yours fixed as it will be cheaper in the long run |
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29th Sep 2019 1:14pm |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1841
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Bear - yes, you're right, mine is on a 300TDi, but I've just checked the Foundry 4x4 site (understand they have the X-Eng brand now?) and found this page:
https://foundry4x4.co.uk/index.php?route=p...duct_id=56 This says that as long as your vehicle has the LT230 transfer box the brake will fit, though you may need a different cable. As I say, not really wanting to argue against the standard set up, perhaps I didn't take the time to get to know its foibles well enough. However I certainly feel as if my X-eng one has stood the test of time. I can't remember in the slightest what it might have cost, but that's almost neglibile when divided by the years, and an easier solution. Again, in my opinion. Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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29th Sep 2019 1:46pm |
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| oneten110 Member Since: 02 Jul 2011 Location: Wish I was still in France Posts: 741
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Been using the standard set up for 25 years with no problems whatsoever. It has held a fully loaded truck and GKN Rapier trailer on gradients. It is not a Defender, it is a One_Ten
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29th Sep 2019 5:55pm |
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| gazman Member Since: 17 Aug 2015 Location: Liverpool Posts: 652 
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I've got one to fit as I've had issues with the std one time and time again. I've had it go out of round, then it fell off when I broke the prop and was driving home in fwd (my fault). Bought a replacement, to then get a oil leak and had to change the shoes again.
I've also had issues with it clogging. 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car) 2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r |
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29th Sep 2019 6:16pm |
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| dioliahary Member Since: 18 Jan 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 668 
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Mine has been reliable, I only changed to one years ago cause I could but have been happy with it. 1990 200tdi conversion 90
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29th Sep 2019 6:57pm |
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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1915
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Thanks for the reply’s
I think I will go for the X brake, I get a lot of heat from under the cubby box and around the hand brake which I’m sure it’s down to the drum Thanks all 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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29th Sep 2019 7:54pm |
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| foxhound Member Since: 02 Mar 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 363 
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i thoroughly recommend my X Eng handbrake. my bogstandard handbrake couldn't hold my 110 and sankey trailer on a steep metalled lane at home in Devon years ago, and I've not had any worries since fitting the X Eng. 110 Defender 300tdi & Penman trailer with ally exped top and roof tent
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21st Oct 2019 1:00pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8025 
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i ran some of the prototypes for Simon when the idea was first born and many moons prior to Foundry taking on the X-Eng brand. i love them and have them on my off roaders. but for mainly road going vehicles i stick with the std setup which when set up correctly works well in my experience. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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21st Oct 2019 1:18pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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But I'm betting that was a standard handbrake is a state of disrepair rather than a perfectly clean and setup one? Nothing wrong with swapping to the X eng disc for various reasons but it doesn't solve an issue that isn't there. |
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21st Oct 2019 3:24pm |
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