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BaronDefenders



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Next time I take it out for a run I’ll plug in the Nanocom and check Charlie

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Paul V.



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Netherlands 2004 Defender 110 Td5 SW Auto Zambezi Silver


Cilinder roughness at 50 degrees coolant fluid


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Post #796529 3rd Oct 2019 10:31am
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Paul V.



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Netherlands 2004 Defender 110 Td5 SW Auto Zambezi Silver

Cilinder roughness at 90 degrees coolant fluid
Post #796534 3rd Oct 2019 11:10am
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Mario110



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I can confirm these values, when cold "rough" cylinder balance, when warm really good but with knocking.

Could it be possible - just an idea because of discussion with my mechanical - that this knocking is caused by an hydraulic lasher? I've got new ones when my head was replaced....so everything should be fine...but who knows?

Has anyone of you guys a "thicker" oil than 5W30 in the car or is somebody using an additiv? Something like this: https://www.amazon.de/Liqui-Moly-1009-Hydr...B001CZODI2

Best Mario
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Paul V.



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Hi,

@alex, I’m 100% sure that the knocking noise came after the broken injector and the replacement of the seals/plates of the other 5 injectors.
Before my engine had a typical Td5 sound and runs very smooth.

But now I am confused....
(After the moment that the noise came we drove more than 2000 km’s with the car.)

I hardly dare to say it:
The last 3 days there was no knocking sound anymore !
But end of this afternoon I heard the knocking sound again.
But,by far, not as loud as in the beginning.
I think it’s the best to drive with the car for a couple of weeks.
I will let you know.

@Mario, I have changed the engine oil from 5W40 to 10W40 both full synthetic.
There was no difference between them.
Post #796569 3rd Oct 2019 5:15pm
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Mario110



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Quote:
I hardly dare to say it:
The last 3 days there was no knocking sound anymore !
But end of this afternoon I heard the knocking sound again.
But,by far, not as loud as in the beginning.
I think it’s the best to drive with the car for a couple of weeks.
I will let you know.


This is really crazy: I drove yesterday to the workshop where i got those injectors, 140km journy....and the knocking was really better. I left the car there so they can check by themselfs but yesterday I was not able to show them the issue Shocked
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geobloke



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Hang on. IIRC there was a LR bulletin some years ago that amended the rocker to injector clearance gaps. I will see if I can re-find the document later, but from memory it was something like the manuals stated tighten then back off the screw by one turn. The update suggested backing off a further half a turn to 1.5 turns of the screw.

Could this be the source of some of the knocking at the top end?!
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Paul V.



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I am very curious about that Land Rover bulletin!
On another forum I only read once that someone turned the injectors 1.5 turn back for safety.

in the meantime our Def is doing fine....
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Mario110



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@Paul V.

So, knocking is away after driving some kilometers?
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Paul V.



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Yep, that is correct Mario.
the hard, sharp knock gradually disappeared.
In the meantime we drove +- 2500 km’s.

And I didn’t do anything more to solve it.

I know, strange but truth!
I was thinking..... is it necessary to build up some carbon in the place near the plate of the injector ?
(When you want to put on the new plates on the injectors you have to scratch of the carbon from the side of the injectors)
My diesel specialist said no.....
Post #797250 8th Oct 2019 11:34am
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