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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4795   
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That’s a quarter more than me, shall we have a group buy
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4th Sep 2019 8:13pm |
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| Chris86 Member Since: 15 Jul 2014 Location: South Yorks Posts: 789 
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I would probably spec it, look at the price and go and buy a G-Class instead!
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4th Sep 2019 10:31pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8026  
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3.5T towing
3 locking diffs auto torque engine lots of packing space Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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5th Sep 2019 10:10pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3287 
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This! |
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6th Sep 2019 5:30am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Ive seen the P400e being labelled as a PHEV, but is it really? "The new engine utilizes a 48-volt electrical system and a small 0.2-kWh lithium-ion battery to drive a motor-generator, which delivers nearly seamless engine restarts from the standard stop-start system. A regenerative braking system recaptures energy and feeds it to the battery. This mild-hybrid system, however, does not enable driving on electric-only power." https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a2892...e-numbers/ Article also is pretty damning on the engine as a whole  |
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6th Sep 2019 7:18am |
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| tashkurgan Member Since: 04 Mar 2010 Location: cork Posts: 7 
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Hi,
I have a P400e RRS and can confirm that it has a 12.4KW battery and a range of about 40K (as well as a 296hp 2L petrol engine). In my case about 35K with hills etc. Just arrived into work after a 26.5k rural and city dive and the app says that I did 1.4l/100 km. Not bad, but will be running on petrol on the way home I'd say as I haven't got a convenient charger nearby. |
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6th Sep 2019 7:28am |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753
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48v system is labelled a “mild” hybrid and every JLR product will have it eventually, except any BEV version and the PHEV - the mild hybrids are basically what you get in most Toyotas. You can already by Evoque and Discovery Sport as mild hybrids. I have been running a PHEV for 15 months and while the range is somewhat short of what is claimed (just like mpg is overstated for 99.99% of ICE vehicle) and drops by a further 30% or more when it gets colder, in the time i’ve Owned it I have filled the 35ltr petrol tank 7 times....... whereas my last RRS SDv6 needed feeding with 85 ltrs of derv every 10 days. I have the added advantage that, in Scotland, in exchange for £20pa I have unlimited access to public chargers operated by Chargepoint Scotland, I also utilise my FIT from my solar array on my house roof to charge my battery, that unlike the JLR PHEVs needs only a 13amp socket for 3 hours to do a full recharge / 26 miles range.
Tashkurgan, I would be interested to hear your views on whether the 2.0ltr petrol turbo is really up to the job of hauling the weight of an RRS along. I’ve heard it is only just powerful enough but that it us also quite a noisy engine when operating in petrol only / ICE mode. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! Last edited by Tim in Scotland on 6th Sep 2019 7:53am. Edited 2 times in total |
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6th Sep 2019 7:47am |
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| RDR Member Since: 27 Apr 2018 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 592
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supacat
I think all the new generation JLR engines regardless have the mild hybrid 48v system now. The P400 e is a true PHEV with a larger (chargeable) battery and can rune in Pure EV mode. 110 MY23.5 X Dynamic HSE RR MY23 HSE PHEV D5 MY19 HSE - Now Sold D4 MY16 HSE Luxury - Now Sold D4 MY12 HSE - Gone D3 MY06 S - Gone but not forgotten |
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6th Sep 2019 7:47am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Thanks chaps for putting me right - re-read the article and it's just the P400 not the P400e - my bad.
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6th Sep 2019 9:04am |
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