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NorfolknWayRambler



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RDR wrote:
was in my dealers this morning collecting new car and booked a slot for 3 weeks time to discuss specs further. He said there will be many options to choose from!

At a high level I'm thinking 110 P400e, Byron Blue, HSE with driver assist pack, HUD, roof bars,Privacy Glass, heated steering wheel, ladder, side steps and towpack Very Happy


.."And with those extras Sir,.that will be a total of £78,995.64p please Sir"...
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milesr3



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familymad wrote:

The SE gets 20in "Apollo" wheels, Premium LED headlights with high beam assist, powered rear-view mirrors and a passive entry system, 14-way adjustable electric front seats, a 370W Meridian audio system with 10 speakers and automatic parking.


Do you have hands-on experience of LR's 'tech' from other models in the range? It might be worth testing some of this stuff before going ahead and ordering it, although I appreciate that this may not be possible ahead of time.

The reason I say this is because we borrowed a D5 HSE for 3 weeks while the Defender was in for warranty work. At first it was brilliant but after prolonged use I started to notice that the quality/implementation of some of the additional spec items was not very good. For example the high beam assist was very dim witted and reacted slowly to other vehicles; the 'super' high resolution instrument panel was actually a bit low res and without great contrast. The infotainment system was clunky. It all felt a bit cheap consumer electronics. All comparisons are against what I am used to from my Mercedes.

At the time I was convinced that the HSE spec was must-have and priced up a deal to buy one. With hindsight a lower spec one would have been better.
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pcoote



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Epsom Green, front opening air vent flaps
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Slideywindows



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If someone is asked what spec they would like the new "Defender" in and asks for a manual gearbox option, why the derision?
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AMBxx



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
It's all become very tribal and shouty. Shame really.
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Zed



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Slideywindows wrote:
If someone is asked what spec they would like the new "Defender" in and asks for a manual gearbox option, why the derision?


Because it won’t be available as a manual.

Or were you being sarcastic?
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Slideywindows



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I don't do personal sarcasm Zed.

Follow my lead, perhaps?
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Zed



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Quote:

I don't do personal sarcasm Zed.

Follow my lead, perhaps?


Brilliant!
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Zed



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For the record Slidey, it was an honest question.
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milesr3



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It occurred to me whether you can order the new Defender with a white roof? I think this will be one key thing that will make it look Defendery.
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Tim in Scotland



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Miles, judging by the popularity of a contrast roof on other models and the cost for ticking that box, it is a huge money spinner for JLR so it will be an option, along, I suspect, with a panoramic roof so you pay for the entire roof to be specially painted and then you pay even more to have 60% of it cut out and thrown in the recycling bin. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!
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BogMonster



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milesr3 wrote:
It occurred to me whether you can order the new Defender with a white roof? I think this will be one key thing that will make it look Defendery.


You may find that where you once had to pay quite a bit extra to have the roof painted the same colour as the vehicle, you now have to pay extra to have it in white Laughing

I always thought that a white roof was essential but I must admit I'm getting used to the Puma with body colour. Oddly, a white roof is usually easier to keep clean especially with a roof rack on.

I think it's a shame there are no manuals at all in the range. I've heard emissions being cited as the reason on other models, which is Censored , because you can still buy a Ford Ranger or an L200 with a manual box, I've just been looking at one. ---
2006 Defender 110 SW 300Tdi • 2011 Ford Ranger XLT crewcab • 2015 Defender 110 Station Wagon Utility TDCi
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Huttopia



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With extended warranty and Land Rover assist.
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NoDo$h



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White 90 D240 Standard (base spec), plus air if that's an option, with black wheels in the smallest size they do them. Probably 19 from what I can make out.

I'd like a PHEV, but as is the current way of things, they only offer that in a higher powered version, rather than a more sensible mid/low spec output.

I suspect they won't offer air on the base spec. Only if you order the next model up, then add the "premium package" that includes 7 things you don't want, plus the one thing you do. For £4,700. 

54 Freelander modded for mud
2008 D3 SE
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1978 88 Series 3 undergoing surgery with a new owner
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2006 D3 SE - gone
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
BogMonster wrote:

Decent tyres as big as could be fitted, and on the smallest diameter rims available, and preferably on alloys to avoid the rust after a year.

Snorkel, winch and recovery points, proper bash plate under the front if available
Utilitarian interior that could be swept out (never felt the need to hose them out).


It's the rust after a year that confirms you have genuine wheels.

Will JLR have a snorkel or just a raised air intake?

Winch, proper bash plate, and also things like roof racks are always better when bought aftermarket; and often a double benefit of also being cheaper.
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