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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17417   
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It could be a totally flat battery, but I would check underneath that the lead from the battery box to the driver's side seat box hasn't been cut as the first stage of an attempted theft.
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25th Aug 2019 12:12pm |
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| williamthedog Member Since: 29 Dec 2012 Location: south wales Posts: 3441 
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Yes as above, if ok check voltage of battery and earth points. Hope its just a duff battery not a attempt to steal it.
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25th Aug 2019 12:33pm |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 666  
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Thanks. Fingers crossed for battery as i have secondary battery connection.
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25th Aug 2019 12:50pm |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 666
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Good diagnosis - battery reading zero and thankfully all the battery connections are still intact. Will get one tomorrow.
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25th Aug 2019 4:24pm |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 666
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 - that is the new battery totally flat and car dead in less than 24 hours.
RAC called but what could drain the battery so fast? |
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27th Aug 2019 6:34pm |
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| Julie Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: Nantes Posts: 493  
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Are you sure that your new battery has been fully charged ?
the battery was probably dead because you forgot to switch off your lights. And the "old" one, too. |
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27th Aug 2019 8:40pm |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 666
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Maybe the new one might not have been but it has an indicator on the top that said it was.
It started the car immediately when fitted however I didn't get chance to take for a run. It was totally dead in less than 24 hours. No lights were left on! Strange thing is the Back Up Alarm hasn't sounded at all. To top it all now pouring with rain, the RAC have cancelled me until tomorrow as I am at home. |
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27th Aug 2019 8:50pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20413
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Sounds like parasitic drain.
Test the circuits fir current draw and or isolate each one to check, starting at the battery you should be able to test draw. Do you have aftermarket relays? If so are any coils energised with permanent live? If that is the case, that would do it but usually over a few days but not always. Check that there is alternator charging voltage also, again with a multimeter. Without alternator charging voltage usually about 13.2 low to 13.8 normal - 14.2 higher range then the battery will soon deplete as it's losing its capacity starting and not having any reserve replenished. I doubt you have a short as you'll likely have a fuse blown, more likely permanent live positive current drain. Anywhere probably from 150mA to 1.5A. A Relay coil along IS enough to cause issues quite quick, I've had it before years ago. And finally make sure batter clamps are all tight.  $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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27th Aug 2019 10:14pm |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 666
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10/10 to Steve. An aux relay it was.
Once the RAC guy turned up he quickly diagnosed with his current meter that 12A was flowing to the front spotlight circuit while ignition off. As it is parked front into a hedge for security it was not easy to spot. (No pun intended!) Fuse disconnected now so just need to get a new relay. Delighted with the RAC technician but their call centre another story... |
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28th Aug 2019 9:06am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20413
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Excellent news, glad you found it. I had the same where a previous owner wired the Relay coil to permanent live with around a 200mA drain. This used to make the battery flat in about 3days.
So with the draw yours had it's no wonder there was the issues you had. I would suggest a Relay with diode on the coil, and take the parts fitted completely apart check all the connectors and holder and re-assemble with everything checked just to be safe and that it's fused in an appropriate way near the battery. As it sounds like it hasn't been fitted properly at all, and could be very risky. Also worth checking the cable dia is up to scratch for the load and fusing used too. At least you now know it's isolated. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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28th Aug 2019 11:00am |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 666
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Yes glad to get it sorted.
It is wired correctly - it is just that the relay had stuck in the latched on position and therefore kept the spotlights on no matter what was applied to the coil. |
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28th Aug 2019 11:50am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20413
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Ah I see, I always go for Durite on mine.
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28th Aug 2019 11:52am |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
12 amp 144 w cored 30 amp relay contact fused closed  spotlights on indicate lamp on the dash  |
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28th Aug 2019 12:43pm |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 666
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144w - that reminds me I must change out that temporary 55w bulb in the left light for another 100w!
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28th Aug 2019 5:26pm |
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