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landy andy



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29 or not?
So what is the point of the 29 er in biking. So basically a mountain bike but with 29” wheels, instead of 27”. Why? What’s the point?

Thinking E Bike but what’s the difference?

Andy.
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GREENI



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Just like a Land Rover tyre.... the bigger the tyre, the easier it goes over obstacles. Smooths out bumps etc.

But slower and lazy on twisty stuff.
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I feel my Giant mountain bike is undergeared for me, and I can/could go much faster. I don’t so serious off road stuff, just trials, byways, towpaths, and am thinking electric. So 29” better on road, like a hybrid, but not a delicate?

Sounds good to me
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landy andy



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You sell these things don’t you GREENI. Where abouts is your shop?
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landy andy wrote:
I feel my Giant mountain bike is undergeared for me, and I can/could go much faster. I don’t so serious off road stuff, just trials, byways, towpaths, and am thinking electric. So 29” better on road, like a hybrid, but not a delicate?

Sounds good to me
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DonH2000



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With motorcycles, the bigger the wheel the better stability it has, so a lot of sports bikes used to have 16" front wheels which allowed stunning performance in bends as it allowed for quicker steering whilst off road bike had 21" front wheels which aided stability and less falling over!

That's my take on it!!! Cheers Don.
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L90Andy



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My MTB is standard 26". Tried a 29er and didn't like how numb it felt in comparison, but did appreciate its ability to roll over drops, rocks etc without fear of getting caught up.
Tempted to try a 650b (27.5") as a sweet spot next.
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Caterham



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funny this. I bought a 29er this year and still have a 26.
now the 29 is effectively the same model as the 26 ie they're both the same top end model. below is a list of the differences;
26 v 29 wheels,
2x10 gears v 1x11
alloy wheels v carbon wheels
carbon crank set v alloy crank set
one is a medium frame (26) and one a large (29)

up till now the 26 is quicker round my 30 min off loop although I believe there are a few sections where the 29 is very close and possibly a little quicker. what did surprise is there's a 2 - 2.5 minute fairly steep climb and the 26 is quicker

there's also a little loop on the road I do that has a 42 meter and the 29 is clearly quicker even though the bike is circa 1.2 kg heavier. might just be the gearing is better suited to that particular gradient?

bottom line is I don't see there's a huge amount in it either way but the 29 is definitely heavier overall even with the single gear setup - I think the size of wheels and tyres just kill the weight.

the 26 is without a doubt more nimble and you can definitely feel that - perhaps on certain types of terrain / rides nimble is un-necessary, possibly for unwanted?
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L90Andy wrote:
My MTB is standard 26". Tried a 29er and didn't like how numb it felt in comparison, but did appreciate its ability to roll over drops, rocks etc without fear of getting caught up.
Tempted to try a 650b (27.5") as a sweet spot next.
Great, more options!
my whyte is a 27.5 perfect for trail riding in my opinion. 2007 2.4 90 fettled & remapped.
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landy andy



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Some interesting points above, thanks for them.

So it looks like I will have to try a few setups, before deciding what is preferred, and then choose if I wish to go electric.

Maybe just spend the few thousand on my Defender instead as it is easier. Whistle Whistle
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MartinK



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L90Andy wrote:
My MTB is standard 26". Tried a 29er and didn't like how numb it felt in comparison, but did appreciate its ability to roll over drops, rocks etc without fear of getting caught up.
Tempted to try a 650b (27.5") as a sweet spot next.
Great, more options!


I too tried a 29'er but so far have stuck with 26 for MTB. I found the 29'er slower turning and less nimble for tight trails. I do have a "gravel bike" that's 29" but tend to use that more on the road (no suspension).

I thought most new MTB bikes sold were 27.5, and 26/29 almost obsolete??? Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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GREENI



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26 is pretty much obsolete, there's a lot of brands offering 29ers still, along with 650 option.
I have 2 Brian Rourke 26" single speed, rigid mountain bikes I had custom made (I was the manager there for a number of years and rode for them in my teens).
I have 2 American made BMX's and 2 Fat Bikes! One on ebay now, painted like a Klein Attitude (only OG MTB'ers will know what they are).

I have just bought a 650 gravel bike! Rode it twice and got a chest infection, so that's just about gone, so will be back riding again.
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jst



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I still run 26, one a lefty too.

Ideally would like a 29 front, 650b rear. Cheers

James
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