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M2Tarmac



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United Kingdom 2000 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Epsom Green
TD5 occasional momentary cut off - fuel pump?
Hi, I have Defender 130 TD5. Occasionally when driving, the engine stutters for a second and then carries on. It feels like a momentary cut off of fuel supply. Any tips?
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JWL



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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
Check the relays under the seat for poor connections, leave it on tick over and give them a wriggle.
Mine did a similar thing the other week and it was the wires to the crank sensor but I suspected them straight away as I'd been working in the general area, I had changed the fuel pressure valve for a rebuilt one and the boy had been helping. We had also taken the air box off to cut out the cyclone thingy so it was highly probable that between us we had disturbed a previous bodge repair I had done after I swopped the engine last year.
Others might have some ideas but I'd hazard a guess on a poor connection at the fuel pump relay.
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4RF RDS



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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
Agree with JWL... check electrical Censored first, crank sensor wiring can be dodgey on high mileage Defenders. Then... plug it in see if there are any codes. Before you go crazy and pull the FP look at changing your fuel filter as well.

Good luck 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
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1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
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M2Tarmac



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United Kingdom 2000 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Epsom Green
Hi guys,
Thanks for the replies. The mileage isnt very high (110k) but I will check the relays and check codes. I also suspect the fuel filter; the housing is in an awful state and I was about to replace it as it looks pretty grim against the new galvanized chassis.
Any tips on the best kit to buy to read the codes?
Post #785643 8th Aug 2019 5:36am
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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
Check battery terminals and assume ignition all feels ok.
Post #785653 8th Aug 2019 7:27am
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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
Nanocom.

+1 on dodgy crank sensor wires Instagram @defender_ventures
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Post #785661 8th Aug 2019 8:19am
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4RF RDS



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Canada 2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green
Nanocom is the one to use but a tad pricey. A cheap alternative to just read codes, clear and see live data is the iCarsoft 930. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Post #785673 8th Aug 2019 9:32am
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NickMc



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Northern Ireland 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Bonatti Grey
Very unlikely a code reader/diag machine will help on this fault before you waste your money- that’s my honest opinion
Does it do this under any particular set of temperatures/time of day/driving circumstance? eg high speed/low speed, revs, uphill/ under load etc
Post #785724 8th Aug 2019 3:10pm
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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
Well if the crank sensor or wiring has gone then yes diganostics will tell you so...

My 110 cut out in traffic then was fine. Cut out again shortly after, turned out to be a bad connection on the crank sensor. Fault logged in the nanocome as high speed crank error Instagram @defender_ventures
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Post #785725 8th Aug 2019 3:13pm
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M2Tarmac



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United Kingdom 2000 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Epsom Green
Thanks guys; there isn't a clear pattern of when it happens. Mostly over bumpy roads though, which made me think of a poor connection somewhere. It also happens when coming off idle or trailing throttle. It doesn't completely die, no more than a hiccup, but it is a definite momentary cut out.
Are the fuel pumps reliable?
Post #785726 8th Aug 2019 3:17pm
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bankz5152



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For the most part yes. Seen them fine up to 200k+ but also seen them die at 50k.

Do you loose all dash lights etc as well? Instagram @defender_ventures
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Post #785727 8th Aug 2019 3:20pm
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NickMc



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Not necessarily on an intermittent fault.

The only thing you will get a reading with on a crank sensor on a Td5 is an oscilloscope, you can test the wiring continuity with a meter, but not the actual sensor- it’s too quick.


But I’ve only been working on them professionally for 20 years everyday- so what would I know Whistle
Post #785728 8th Aug 2019 3:23pm
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M2Tarmac



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United Kingdom 2000 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Epsom Green
No dashboard issues at all.
So, should I bother with the code reader? Oscilloscope sounds outside my skill level!
Post #785733 8th Aug 2019 3:41pm
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