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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410  
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Funnily enough I have been reseaching a catch can (Provent ion particular) over the last few weeks. They make a lot of sense to me, especially for remapped and aging vehicles.
http://hx52.blogspot.com/2017/03/td5-mgmt-...ather.html http://hx52.blogspot.com/2017/05/td5-mgmt-fitting-provent-4.html https://thegippo.wordpress.com/2013/09/28/...er-90-td5/ and one from this forum; https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic28919-30.html This is definitely on my list... |
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31st Jul 2019 7:45am |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3521 
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That's very interesting. As you say, food for thought.
I will do some googling. |
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31st Jul 2019 7:50am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 
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Subscribing to this topic, as I have a suspect EGR at 46k miles... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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31st Jul 2019 9:15am |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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These are also good vids on the subject;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-B4VRxAtbw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFDQI-NN2MU&t=496s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moy92KmN7A4 |
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31st Jul 2019 11:16am |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1846 
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Interesting video above - haven't had the time to check out the other links. If I've followed this properly, my car as an elderly, non-EGR, 300Tdi will have oil vapour blowing through the sump/rocker cover, but because it doesn't have an EGR I don't have the compounded issue of soot being introduced into the air intakes?
I did try venting the rocker cover breather into a bottle, but there was so much smoke comng out of that that I to reconnect it back into the intake pipe. Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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31st Jul 2019 6:57pm |
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| Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223
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Very interesting, especially about EGR blanking. Food for thought indeed.
Thanks for posting this  1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
1967 Morris Traveller 1966 Morris Convertible 2012 VW T5 Camper Quod Abundat Non Obstat. |
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31st Jul 2019 7:12pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Fascinating stuff. Makes me feel much better about having my EGR valve replaced a week or so ago rather than go down the blanking route. It looks like a Provent is a good investment, though. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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31st Jul 2019 8:09pm |
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| JPE Member Since: 19 Nov 2018 Location: South West England Posts: 335 
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It certainly looks a compelling argument to fit a catch can. My only concern is that my puma's under a warranty for another 15 months & I'm not sure how the warranty company would react if I had an issue & they saw I'd added a catch can.
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31st Jul 2019 9:39pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3521
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If you fitted one, I'm sure the warranty people would find a reason why they wouldn't pay out on a claim.
They (nearly) all state that the vehicle has to be standard with no modifications. I suppose you can see their point of view? |
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1st Aug 2019 9:52am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665
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JPE - you must be the only Defender which still has a Warranty on here (on the basis manufacturing stopped almost 4 years ago :
It's very easy to remove if you do it right. Basically the pipe to the Turbo area remains the same, it just connects to thee catch can, which in turn has a short pipe to the air box pipe. you could remove it in 30 seconds at the side of the road if needs arose...(that's my plan anyway altho I am 5 years out of warranty  Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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1st Aug 2019 9:55am |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4218 
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A Provent 200 has been on my to-do list for a long time, but I keep baulking at the price of new one. Any recommendations of where to get the best price? There are a lot of knock-offs for a fractions of the Mann price on Ebay, but given it is plumbed into the engine, probably not worth the risk. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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1st Aug 2019 11:05am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17458 
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The last one I bought came from Multifactor Europe (https://www.mfeuk.co.uk/provent/) and was £86.46 plus vat, whcih I thought was pretty reasonable. As far as I can tell, all the eBay ones must be knock-offs since they are absurdly cheap, and the filter inside looks nothing like the high-tech Mann+Hummel filter.
MFEU also sells non-return valves for the drain, which you will need if draining into a vented catch can. I also found that there is an Australian company which makes hose adaptors specifically for the Provent 200 which simplify and neaten the installation, these are available via eBay. The service and shipping from Australia is very quick. Link |
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1st Aug 2019 11:54am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665
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Great link and info - thanks Blackwolf...
Blackwolf - any chance you could post some piccies of your installation please? Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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1st Aug 2019 12:02pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17458
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I'll see what I can do, but I'll have to take the photos first. It may take a few days.
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1st Aug 2019 12:17pm |
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