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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5859   
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Hello all,
Having been watching thoughts on gearbox, diff, transmission, flywheel rattles addendum and finally decided I needed some advice on mine  . As background it is a 2011 2.2 with 60k miles on the clock. The noise is not there when first fired up, but once running is really obvious every time I stop at lights/idle etc. As regards the box, engagement in all gears seems fine, albeit I have to feather the clutch with more skill than Senna to avoid a clunk on engagement.
Have sought opinion locally, but have had three separate answers: LR Main dealer: No problem, it's a Defender. But I'll tighten the handbrake. Local do-it-all LR guy: Clutch is on its way out need to change ASAP. Local, well regarded mech, but who loves/owns a Defender: it the DM Flywheel. I am at a loss. 
Can anyone out there in D2.net land give me a final answer. I have uploaded my first ever, most definitely not Ridley Scott, video which hopefully will add some clarity. I have to order parts in the UK and get them shipped over, (cheaper) and don't want to have to do it twice, or more, if I get it wrong. I know this isn't scientific, but any help much appreciate. 
Sorry about the video, was in (smart) work clothes....please go to the end where I depress the clutch. Ta Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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14th May 2015 12:57pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308  
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firstly to ensure you're not wasting your money.......
are they doing any road works at the end of your drive 
sounds like the clutch to me. doubt it's the hand brake and my understanding is they don't have a dual mass flywheel so I'd rule that out too. I'm waiting on getting mine replaced - whilst having it done I'm going to bite the bullet and replace the extension shaft (at the very least worth a look while it's apart. hope you get it sorted. and with regards to being a master of clutch control to prevent clunk I also know what you mean....for me it's intermittent thou ? |
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14th May 2015 1:30pm |
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| Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471  
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Assuming you've checked to make sure there's nothing external that's loose and causng it as BW says you'll be needing to get the box dropped asap! Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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14th May 2015 2:53pm |
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| rallysteve Member Since: 10 Feb 2014 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2237 
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Not sure if the 2.2tdci in the defender has the same issue as the 2.2tdci in fords and jags but the front bottom pulley disintegrates and ruins tge bearing in the aux belt tensioner causing a horrendous rattle at idle. Usually worse by turning the air con on or loading the alternator heavily. Went on my 2.2 xtype and thought it was the dmf!
Steve 02' 110 TD5 Double Cab Rebuild Thread |
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14th May 2015 3:54pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17480 
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Not likely to be affected by pressing the clutch if it was pulley related, I'd have thought.
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14th May 2015 4:27pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3648 
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if its noisy with your foot off the clutch and quieter when you press the clutch it is the clutch rattling, why the box is check the drive shaft to the transfere box, my clutch and drive shaft were u/s at 13k miles even though driven with love DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,
I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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14th May 2015 4:38pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5859
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Thank you all.
I thought much the same, having looked at all the forum threads. Will drop the clutch and speak to Ashcroft as a matter or urgency. Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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18th May 2015 8:51am |
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| Samfrith Member Since: 09 Jul 2019 Location: Old Windsor Posts: 1
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Hi. Read an old thread of yours and wondered if you ever found out what was causing the knocking? I have exactly the same noise/issue with my 2012 90 X -Tech.
Any help or advice appreciated! |
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9th Jul 2019 9:12am |
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| CharlieDonuts Member Since: 16 Jun 2019 Location: Illiers Combray Posts: 133 
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I had an idle ‘rattle’ coming from the gearbox this week.
It turned out to be the tinplate surrounding the gearbox mount Half falling off and tapping against the chassis No idea what this tin plate does Nor why I have it on one mount but not the other |
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26th Jul 2019 6:26am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17480
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It's a heat shield to protect the rubber mount from the exhaust.
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26th Jul 2019 6:49am |
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| CharlieDonuts Member Since: 16 Jun 2019 Location: Illiers Combray Posts: 133
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Thank you 😊 I’ll put replacing the mounts on the list !
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26th Jul 2019 8:58am |
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| Hufflepuff Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: Hampshire Posts: 727 
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#you don't need to replace it! Its a free repair
Just bend it so its 'sprung' against the chassis/mount/gearbox, so it can't vibrate. Its job is to simply to stop the heat from the exhaust cooking the rubber. 2005 Td5 90 XS 1989 V8 110 CSW |
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26th Jul 2019 12:59pm |
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| CharlieDonuts Member Since: 16 Jun 2019 Location: Illiers Combray Posts: 133
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Thanks chaps I got underneath at lunchtime and bent it outta the way.
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26th Jul 2019 1:33pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8099  
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thats quite bad! as ^^^^ drop the box and take a look sooner rather than later.
on the + side makes me less worried about the small rattle mine has!  Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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26th Jul 2019 9:05pm |
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