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| G4UJS Member Since: 20 Jan 2019 Location: Shropshire Posts: 226   
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4th Jul 2019 8:19am |
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| DonH2000 Member Since: 12 Jan 2015 Location: North Kent Posts: 551 
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Cheapest from £40,000................ sigh..... Cheers Don.
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4th Jul 2019 8:37am |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3674 
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The most disappointing thing for me is that the larger 110 (is assume they meant 130) will be available as an 8 seater only, so it is essentially a people carrier!
I was really optimistic about this, but unfortunately it is way out of my price range and doesn’t appear to be anything like an alternative to an actual defender. Shame, but I wouldn’t sell my 90 anyway! Also looks like it will do nothing other than cannibalise the rest of the range which is sad given how much bother JLR are in at the moment. |
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4th Jul 2019 10:28am |
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| tookaphotoof Member Since: 18 Mar 2013 Location: dordrecht Posts: 1279  
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Looking at prices for the Velar I'm guessing they will start at €70.000 over here. Now I really don't care for the looks anymore.  |
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4th Jul 2019 10:53am |
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| Freypal Member Since: 23 Sep 2013 Location: Shropshire Posts: 271 
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I really cannot fathom JLRs marketing or sales strategy any more. I had put their current lineup into a chart by price.
 Click image to enlarge If you want to spend around £45k so new Defender money, you have a pick of 7 out 10 models in their lineup. Talk about market saturation. It seems clear from this that they are marketing this in the Discovery / F-Pace market. But I cannot understand why. This is isn't going to draw additional buyers, it's going to cannibalise their existing sales surely. Even their own marketing slides say this is aimed at affluent "adventurous" singles/couples. You know, the type of people who'd cuurently buy a Discovery or F-Pace.... |
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4th Jul 2019 12:26pm |
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| Ecco Member Since: 31 Oct 2015 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 280  
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..well..as i said before..pure hipster car..mall crawler..no wonder JLR need surrogate to survive..
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4th Jul 2019 12:56pm |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2526
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I'm sure that JLR have plenty of charts that they have available to them, very similar to Freypal's. So I'm just as intrigued as Freypal as to what demographic they are hoping to pitch the new Defender at. Looking at the specs and pricing it is clearly a mixture of a tough off roader and a Chelsea tractor, possibly a cheaper alternative to the G wagen yes but that market alone is not going to keep the Slovak factory working at full chat. I'm not sure the mainstream SUV market will absorb many sales - I cannot see the Q5, Q7, X3 and X5 drivers making a shift to the new Defender. Defender 90XS SW
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4th Jul 2019 3:20pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638  
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if we look at your chart, the cheapest LR with low range is the Defender - this is why it will sell
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Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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4th Jul 2019 3:50pm |
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| G4UJS Member Since: 20 Jan 2019 Location: Shropshire Posts: 226
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I think it will sell.........but too a new breed of Defender enthusiasts and not many Defender2 members will buy one, even if they could afford it.
I don't believe LR are doing the icon proud! Rob |
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4th Jul 2019 4:05pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17372 
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Are you sure it has low range? The article that started this thread say it has the same driveline as other Landrover products; how many of those now actually have a transfer box and proper low range? |
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4th Jul 2019 4:39pm |
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| G4UJS Member Since: 20 Jan 2019 Location: Shropshire Posts: 226
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Blackwolf I think the "low range" was referring to the lowest price in each model
Rob |
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4th Jul 2019 5:47pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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The full size Discovery and Range Rover, and RR Sport all have a transfer box that offers low range and there's no reason to think the new Defender won't have one either. The only exception may be a full electric version as a similar effect can be achieved through control systems, but that's supposition on my part. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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4th Jul 2019 8:19pm |
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| Freypal Member Since: 23 Sep 2013 Location: Shropshire Posts: 271
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I agree it may well sell in half decent numbers but im struggling to see how those sales won't come at the expense of the D5.
If I were inclined to spend that much on a capable 4x4, I'd rather have the new Defender from what I've seen rather than the D5 as I think the D5 is hideous. But that wouldn't be a net gain for LR in sales terms... |
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4th Jul 2019 8:42pm |
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| cozz Member Since: 15 May 2013 Location: nottingham Posts: 537 |
that chart makes the disco sport seem like a bargain
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6th Jul 2019 7:59pm |
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