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| Snowy90 Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 482   
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Hi Zed,
China are currently building coal fired power stations, so i rest easy knowing i probably wont have to worry about swapping the defender engine for a e-motor, although there is a growing market out there for conversions of other cars. Im interested in the air source heating, and i can see it makes sense if your reliant on fluctuating oil prices, er are mains gas, but it seems to be the future,mind me asking what sort of cost it is and what size the unit is inside the house or is it all external mounted? We have a solar thermal water heating on the roof, so i am not completely, fossil fuel driven, that works great from now till October, we dont have the boiler on at all. It was only cost effective though as we installed it when we did a loft conversion, so was reworking the plumbing and had scaffolding up etc...  on the well idea, its getting cheaper to drill a bore now and the pumps are cheaper too! ( Thanks to China) |
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2nd May 2019 3:57pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3287 
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Air source was quite pricey but we did install more panels, underfloor heating and other stuff at the same time. Our pump is a Mitsibushi. The unit is a box with a fan outside the house. It looks like an aircon unit. We don't notice it at all.
If you can I'd definitely recommend it. |
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2nd May 2019 4:17pm |
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| Siwynne Member Since: 04 Nov 2016 Location: West lancs Posts: 578 
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One decent volcanic eruption and global temps will plummet. We are only temporary just like the dinosaurs.
Energy cannot be created or destroyed as we were all taught in physics at school. The energy to make a car move at 70mph is the same if if comes from petrol in a tank or gas in a power station then used to charge a car. If we are to go electric I’m buying gold now There isn’t enough on the planet for the electronics and connectors in all the planned electric cars. |
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2nd May 2019 5:03pm |
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| dailysleaze Member Since: 23 May 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 237
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It's business that's driving the electric car revolution. Governments are keen to see it happen, but the technology is now good enough and people are buying them.
However, there are lot of people that want to see the uptake slowed because they're f*cked otherwise. So there's no surprise there's lots of misinformation flying around. Electric cars are coming, not just because they might be greener, but because they're better in several ways. They're not perfect, but they don't have to be to make people part with their cash. RE: UK coal power stations - their usage is diminishing year on year. Check out the twitter feed: https://twitter.com/uk_coal?lang=en |
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2nd May 2019 6:38pm |
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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554 |
not that meany
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2nd May 2019 6:51pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3287
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Lots of coal plants but their total contribution has dropped way down the list.
https://electricinsights.co.uk/#/reports/r...?_k=asclbv Still a very long way to go but fossil fuels in the UK were overtaken by renewables for the first time last year. No doubt helped by the summer we had but still encouraging. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/20...first-time Back to EV's themselves for a moment. Porsche have taken 20,000 deposits for their first foray into the market later this year and wants more than 50% of its vehicles sold to be electric by 2025. https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/fir...he/taycan/ Audi look like they also have a winner. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industr...v-released Merc https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/fir...benz/eq-c/ Jaguar 's all-electric I-PACE accounted for 11.3% of total Jaguar volume for Feb. https://insideevs.com/news/343333/jaguar-i...uary-2019/ |
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2nd May 2019 7:17pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3498 
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This is the way heating will go on new build and possibly some retrofitting. A word of warning. New house prices will increase and not because the boxes outside the house cost a fortune because in comparison they don’t. The issue is the new e High voltage electricity supply which will need to be brought on to the estate. They are not cheap and the developer will have to pay for it and thus this will be passed on to the home owner. The Mitsubishi Electric Ecodan is a cracking bit of kit. If you have enough space and your house points the right way, a few PV Panels and one of these and your laughing. They work best on underfloor heating, but it is possible to use them with radiators. The new units are quieter than ever. Some people don’t like the look of them, but I personally don’t think they are any worse than a boiler. I think we may well end up with one, one day. Until then, my oil boiler fights another day. By the way, I don’t work for or have anything to do with Mitsubishi. I just think they are a great bit of kit. |
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2nd May 2019 8:16pm |
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| andydef90 Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: yorkshire Posts: 617 
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I can see Ferrybridge from home it now has a new plant at the side of it with two turbines . unfortunately one is not working and is to expensive to repair it cost millions two years ago
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3rd May 2019 10:02am |
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| boxoftricks Member Since: 06 Feb 2019 Location: Home Counties Posts: 747 
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Too easy to blame it on everyone else.
Question is what can we do as polluting Defender drivers do to reduce the pollution we create? Should we be removing ERG valves and cats? Should we be remapping our engines to tunes that create more pollution for a few more BHP? |
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3rd May 2019 10:19am |
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| Mike c Member Since: 11 Aug 2017 Location: Maldon, Essex Posts: 928 
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Good point above regarding removing egr etc, they are there for a reason...
It's obviously not just defender drivers though! |
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3rd May 2019 4:21pm |
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| Joe the Plumber Member Since: 18 Dec 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 907 
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Sadly I seem to recall that even if you have your own well (as we have), you still have to pay your water authority as they also deal with "used" water (ahem...) going back out from your house.
If hot air causes climate change, hopefully there'll be a whole lot less of it emitted from the UK once Brexit is over and done with! |
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3rd May 2019 6:20pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3287
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Not us. We have a biosphere septic thingy.
Getting quotes for the borehole. We will need to pay a nominal charge and have a meter to keep us on the system just in case the well runs dry. |
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3rd May 2019 6:26pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17373 
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I reckon the biggest contribution we can make is not to have children! The carbon footprint of an offspring must be considerable.
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3rd May 2019 6:28pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3498
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There was a programme on BBC a few years back where Dr Alice Roberts (her with the bright red hair when she did the show Coast) considered whether she could call herself an environmentalist and still have children (if I recall she had two).
Really interesting show and her conclusions were, much to her disappointment, there was very little environmentally friendly about being a parent. Unusually it was a well balanced programme with much though put into both sides of the arguement. Thought it was hilarious that Emma Thomson flew in from America to attend the climate change protests in London a couple of weeks ago
As for Defender ownership, there are very few of us on here who really require to own a Defender for our job or because of our circumstances. |
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3rd May 2019 6:44pm |
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