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Chopperone



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Clutch change - which one? Puma 2007.
I have just had a LOF clutch spring fitted ( which incidentally was a pig to fit apparently).
What it has highlighted is that l need to change the clutch / dual mass fly wheel etc.
My 90 is a 2007 TdCi with approx 85k miles on the clock.
I have a BAS intercooler , chipped to approx 170/180 bhp & at some stage l intend to change the turbo.
Many use is on road & infrequent towing.
So which clutch/ dual mass flywheel should l look at , rough cost & anything else l should change whilst in there.
My vehicle is a keeper so keen to spend wisely.
TIA
Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful.
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
2007 TDCi does not have a DM flywheel Puma 110" SW

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Post #767936 9th Apr 2019 10:32pm
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Chopperone



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Sorry, thought it did.
Well that should save a couple of quid.
So, which clutch etc?
Thanks
Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful.
Post #767942 10th Apr 2019 1:49am
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
There are a couple of uprated clutches from Lof and Clutchfix. Also dgardel fitted a friction&pressure plate ftom a 4x4 transit (DM flywheel type) without the correponding flywheel. I believe all of them present some pros and cons. Puma 110" SW

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Bluest



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
What are the cons with each of the above? I would go with LOF or Clutchfix thinking there were no downsides other than they might cost a bit more. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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deaallen



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Santorini Black
My tdci is also in need of a new clutch (spring is rattling like a b*itch)

Mine is also uprated with a remap and intercooler. I've decided on the road spec LOF one (£300) but I cannot find anyone local who will fit one for me - they all want to only fit what they can supply so it doesn't affect their works warranty Mad

lof link so you can have a look at the different options they do:

https://lofclutches.com/product-category/tdci/?v=79cba1185463
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MK



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Bluest wrote:
What are the cons with each of the above? I would go with LOF or Clutchfix thinking there were no downsides other than they might cost a bit more.


"higher spec types" do not have a damper on the central hub of the friction plate, neither the 4x4 Transit type. This can produce some rattling at idle. Some say the noise is minimal, but I could not say for sure. Puma 110" SW

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Post #768010 10th Apr 2019 12:46pm
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shropshiredefender



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
I've done around 25k miles on a Clutchfix clutch now, BAS 170 tune + intercooler , mixture of continental autoroutes around 15k, UK A&B roads, and some off-roading.

The clutch is lighter than standard, a good thing, much better for my dodgy knees!

No cons as yet, certainly no rattles, judder or anything to concern me.
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Post #768046 10th Apr 2019 5:32pm
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leeds



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Well Chopperone with this sort of questions you will get a wide variety of response of answer from stick to original, fit aftermarket kit from firm A/B/C

At 4x4overlander we have a good working relationship with Clutchfix and have sold lots of them. The Clutchfix clutches are actually made by Clutchfix in their factory. The lads working there have clutches in their blood. One has been around clutches since he could walk, one has been working with friction materials since leaving school.

There speciality is clutches full stop not just clutches for Defenders. Have seen the range of clutches from vintage commercial buses, to fire engine clutches to Clutches for big Man trucks. Must admit I always like going around their factory and seeing what other clutches they are making.

For your use you do not need a ceramic or kevlar clutch. This one should be more then adequate for your intended purpose.


HTH



Brendan
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PCM



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Hi Chopperone.
By the spring being a pig to fit, do you mean the £20 one below. Details are a 5-10min install and coincidentally it is on my shopping list
Just wondered why it was a pig?



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Found a post about teh power sping and was inspired, so just ordered one. This forum costs a fortune. Rolling with laughter
https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic66507...owerspring
Post #768088 10th Apr 2019 9:22pm
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Chopperone



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Just an a complete pig.
No room to work in.
Cable ties break
Too much rubber matting & sound proofing to remove/pull out the way.

Is it better??
Yes ,but in my case it has highlighted that my clutch will need changing within the next 6 months.
It is much easier to drive especially when sitting at a junction with the clutch dipped but take off is fiercer as the clutch bites about an inch or two off the lowest point.
So the vehicle can leap forward which could be fun in stop/start traffic.

Still not sure which clutch to go for as l spoke to both Luke & Ben today.
Both chaps very helpful & knowledgeable. Unfortunately there will be a winner & a loser ,however, l think both a very good
Products and really it is down to personal choice.
Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful.
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Chopperone



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OK, so I have collected my Clutchfix HD1 Organic clutch/clutch cover/control valve clutch slave cylinder/clutch slave cylinder & adapter clutch slave cylinder.

What else should I have to hand when I am doing the clutch change?
Just so i don't have to waste time ordering bits in.

Fork arm?
New flywheel? ( if so which one)
Ring?


Cheers
Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful.
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MK



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Slave cylinder itself.
Low visocity brake fluid
small hose to bleed the system. A tip on this subject. When the gearbox is on the floor/stand try to fill up the slave cylinder as much as you can. It will spit a bit of fluid when you fit it agains the engine. Also try to remove as much air as possible from the microcopic fluid container down the pipe.
Also be careful, dont ley the gearbox roll on the plastic adapter side. It can break easily. Been there.

I do not think it is necessary to change the flywheel ubless you suspect it is warped. Give it a go with 200 grit sandpaper and clean.

Check the spigot bearing is in good shape and the plastic cage is not broken. Use a bit of blue grease. Puma 110" SW

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Chopperone



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Post #771069 1st May 2019 4:22pm
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Chopperone



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Clutchfix Clutch finally fitted.
Runs like a dream. The old clutch - the springs were just hanging in on there so it wouldn't have been long before it went bang.
Also sorted out my defective diff lock light which has never worked.So that is two more jobs off the list
97 to go.....

Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful.
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