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JOW240725

Member Since: 04 May 2015
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I'd guess the Hunt Saboteurs Association amongst others. Not all but most are just paid thugs not really interested in the cause. James
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20th Mar 2019 4:33pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8582

Now I am not particularly pro or anti hunting, however I will support people carrying out lawful activities.

Now if people wish to eat vegetarian or vegan diet that is their choice as long as they do not try to force their views on myself.

Now if people wish to promote animal welfare good for them if done with legal means.

Now the hunt sabs seem to go about their activities heavily disguised often in paramilitary attire often breaking the law by way of aggravated trespass etc.

Their activities are often posted on social media which can be difficult to reference. Some of their claims are 'entertaining'! Like just rescued this fox from a pack of baying hounds but it has died. Dead fox and person carrying it had no blood on it and no obvious bite marks or injuries on it. Must admit I do not think I would be happy going into a pack of braying hounds ripping a fox apart and walking out unscathed with an unscathed fox!

Spraying the hounds and horses and punching horses along with calling the hounds towards roads does not show concern for animal welfare. Hurling abuse at young children out for a days legal horse riding activity.

Now at the bottom of their farcebook posts there is always please donate towards our fuel costs, costs towards buying a new vehicle/4x4, new tyres etc. The vehicles requiring replacement always seem to be clapped out old bangers.

Now all me sceptical but I wonder if it was staged by the hunt sabs to go fund raising by a gofraudme account.

I may be wrong but if people roam the countryside dressed up as countryside terrorist breaking UK law I will view their videos and reports with a very sceptical eye.

Brendan

20th Mar 2019 5:10pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6300

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

mr 4x4 driver would probably be doing society a favour if he were to ram them AFTER they got out of the car not before

20th Mar 2019 5:21pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3310

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

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mr 4x4 driver would probably be doing society a favour if he were to ram them AFTER they got out of the car not before Thumbs Up

That’s harsh even by your standards Caterham.

Fair enough you get your kicks by trolling, each to their own I s’pose but that type of comment really lets Def2 down.

20th Mar 2019 5:48pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6300

sorry I didn't mean to offend.

MUCH

joking aside I thought that was rather tame by my standards. I could have mentioned the mini-gun but then things get a little messy.

you're not a sab at the weekends are Zed?

ps. did I ever mention I like your choice of defender

20th Mar 2019 5:56pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3310

You didn’t offend me mate, you just let yourself down.

There is no way I could be arsed to be a sab but when I moved here I did refuse permission for our local hunt to go on my land which put a few noses out of joint. Ruined centuries of tradition apparently. I found it hilarious.

On a separate note the Master of the hunt got banged up a few months later for raping a 15 year old girl

20th Mar 2019 6:24pm

diesel_jim

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: hiding
Posts: 6093

Zed wrote:
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mr 4x4 driver would probably be doing society a favour if he were to ram them AFTER they got out of the car not before Thumbs Up

That’s harsh even by your standards Caterham.

Fair enough you get your kicks by trolling, each to their own I s’pose but that type of comment really lets Def2 down.

Was a good point though.

20th Mar 2019 6:25pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20437

Oh joy, another contentious subject on D2 again.

My view is if everyone abides by the law, and behaves themselves what ever side someone's views is then that's fine.

I do not see why those of whom, who want to cannot go on an en masse ride and keep it at that and not all the other stuff.
I ran into them today, funny enough as this thread came up.

Vehicles were all over the place including blocking the lanes on places but they did move so I went though and to where I was heading anyway.

It does appear they often do seem to go around with faces like funerals when anyone is in the vicinity whether you do anything or not.
In my case simply driving through.

Remember those who break the law or try to defy it are those to blame for the others. (Possibly a majority?) that will pay the price.
Violent and abusive behaviour I do not condone and there are always two sides to that story.

Perhaps, IF we had a more sensible Police instead of plastic PCSO's that are reliable people would likely rely more on the law being enforced.
They seem to only have fiestas to go around and not want to get their shoes dirty here.

There is also elements here in places of where this anti 4x4 hate comes in, and where anybody who cannot behave and that includes of piste 4x4 drivers are then trouble is afoot.

Ultimately, if not careful everyone has a price they pay and our freedoms end up in jeopardy.
At this moment in time, ask yourself just how much freedom do you / we have left these days?

As of the last few years we seem to be living in some sort of cross futuristic / and feudal early Victorian social era.

Never mind that last govt, this govt has a lot to answer for as well both the last party and this one.
In fact at least the last three PM's.

I do hope Defender discussion continues here, long into the future.
But will the townies allow us?

I'd say the white shirts of the city are far more damaging than ANY other members of society.
As things stand, younger generations of the rural areas are and have nearly died out.

Damaging factor - money. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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20th Mar 2019 6:33pm

Outlaw1

Member Since: 11 Aug 2016
Location: east sussex
Posts: 268

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

I like the lifted Amazon .hope it wasn't damaged

20th Mar 2019 6:40pm

Joe the Plumber

Member Since: 18 Dec 2013
Location: Midlands
Posts: 907

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Fuji White

My little hunting tale.

Where I did my apprenticeship, there was a local hunt that was often out in the late afternoon as we knocked off for the day. It was always exciting getting past the horse boxes and followers' cars, one bloke even getting his car kicked by a horse. No recompense was forthcoming.

A mate of mine was driving home with his passenger down a really steep hill, notorious locally for accidents. It was getting dark, misty at the bottom of the hill and the lights of a car coming the other way momentarily illuminated the dim figures of two darkly dressed horse riders just a little way in front of my mate's car, hidden in the gloom.

Angry that he could have hit them but for the other car, he slowed down and his mate yelled out of the window at them "Why don't you get some fuc*ing lights?"

The response from Prince Charles and his bodyguard is sadly lost to history....

20th Mar 2019 7:52pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6300

20th Mar 2019 8:11pm

integrale

Member Since: 29 Oct 2015
Location: Auckland
Posts: 77

What is the possible relevance of halal butchers to this topic? In my opinion it's just more disgraceful and unnecessary anti-muslim rhetoric, and after what happened recently in this country I'd have hoped for better from this forum.

20th Mar 2019 11:24pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1763

Sadly, integrale, if one tries hard enough, ANY topic can be turned into an anti Muslim rant, even if the topic had zero relevance to any religion!

21st Mar 2019 1:08am

ken

Member Since: 18 Aug 2009
Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !!
Posts: 4328

Unless I need to go to specsavers doesn't the report say a SABs car was rammed ie the recipient of the alleged altercation

21st Mar 2019 7:09am

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3310

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What is the possible relevance of halal butchers to this topic? In my opinion it's just more disgraceful and unnecessary anti-muslim rhetoric, and after what happened recently in this country I'd have hoped for better from this forum.

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Sadly, integrale, if one tries hard enough, ANY topic can be turned into an anti Muslim rant, even if the topic had zero relevance to any religion!

Social media can be interesting, informative and fun. Unfortunately it is also inhabited by ne'er-do-well's and because they feel safe from the anonymity provided behind a keyboard these types spend their time trolling and being nasty to people they don't know in an attempt to make their sad lives feel a little bit better.

Which, when you think about it, is absolutely hilarious.

21st Mar 2019 7:30am

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