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stevejohns72

Member Since: 09 Sep 2013
Location: Monrovia, Liberia
Posts: 16

TD5 Fails to Start. Frothy Fuel from High Pressure Line

I am Steven Johns and I own a Defender TD5 2004 Model. My Defender doesnt start. I noticed that the fuel from the high pressure line to the engine is frothy. I have replaced the pump and it is still the same. Can anyone assist

14th Mar 2019 2:02pm

4RF RDS

Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 933

2000 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Epsom Green

Sounds like a possible air leak into the fuel system. Is your FPR leaking? 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
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1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
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Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
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14th Mar 2019 2:53pm

stevejohns72

Member Since: 09 Sep 2013
Location: Monrovia, Liberia
Posts: 16

The FPR is new and it is not leaking. However prior to the incident I noticed that the fuel return to the pump was extremely hot to the extent that one would get burned if they touched the fuel filter. I replaced the injector washers and the O-rings.

14th Mar 2019 3:04pm

4RF RDS

Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 933

Okay, have you plugged it in to a code reader? Are there any codes? 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

14th Mar 2019 3:11pm

stevejohns72

Member Since: 09 Sep 2013
Location: Monrovia, Liberia
Posts: 16

I do not see any faults on my code reader. I am using the Hawkeye Diagnostic tool from Bearmach. I will check again and revert

14th Mar 2019 3:18pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

Is fuel filter head OK

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none return valve can cores problems with starting fuel running back

Technical Service bulletin Air bleed
http://gershon.ucoz.com/landrover/TD5/TOPI...oisy_F.pdf

Last edited by dorsetsmith on 14th Mar 2019 3:59pm. Edited 2 times in total

14th Mar 2019 3:41pm

stevejohns72

Member Since: 09 Sep 2013
Location: Monrovia, Liberia
Posts: 16

I will need to check this one. I will swap it with another one and see the difference.

14th Mar 2019 3:43pm

4RF RDS

Member Since: 19 Jul 2015
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 933

Yup next thing to check is that. The aluminum can become corroded and porous. That little valve thingy is also PITA when it gets blocked. 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam)
2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX)
1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy)
1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood)
1967 MGB GT

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats.
H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

14th Mar 2019 5:32pm

lightning

Member Since: 23 Apr 2009
Location: High Peak, Derbyshire
Posts: 2775

The fuel return shouldn’t be red hot. That needs investigating as it could be dangerous.

15th Mar 2019 8:24pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

check fuel return cooler has coolant flowing throw the unit, is on the drivers side underneath the top engine cover

15th Mar 2019 8:28pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

As up date to post 98 to 2004 type fuel cooler have a themost on the coolant inlet to the unit can cores problems with coolant flow

18th Mar 2019 8:44pm

stevejohns72

Member Since: 09 Sep 2013
Location: Monrovia, Liberia
Posts: 16

I have changed the fuel pump and the filter housing. Fuel seems to be flowing with pressure now, but the vehicle still doesnt start. I used the Hawkeye diagnostic tool and there is no error displayed. Could this be a crank sensor problem. What are the symptoms of a bad crank sensor?

I also noticed that the fuel return from the cooler to the tank returns with pressure. Is that normal?

11th Apr 2019 2:48pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

Can you see crank sensor rpm out put on Hawkeye diagnostic live date

11th Apr 2019 7:12pm

stevejohns72

Member Since: 09 Sep 2013
Location: Monrovia, Liberia
Posts: 16

Thanks guys
It has finally started. I needed to bleed it for a while by depressing the pedal 5 times. I will drive it a long distance and observe it.

11th Apr 2019 8:00pm

dorsetsmith

Member Since: 30 Oct 2011
Location: South West
Posts: 4554

good to hear

11th Apr 2019 9:06pm

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