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kljw



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Scotland 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Soft Top Auto Santorini Black
head lamp leveling
Hi
can any help me with this, does the SVX have head lamp leveling? according to the LR web page, the SX xvariants do, but when speaking to the dealer, they have told me not on the SVX. if not, then has anyone ever come up with solution and fitted it?

cheers
keith
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Sonic3d



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I was looking at a new svx yesterday at the stealers and it 100% had headlights leveling Thumbs Up It was the hardtop version
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kljw



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hi again,
thats for this info too. i amassuming then it would be on the soft top, or are land rover liable to make sutle changes between the two?
also, how does in work? is it auto, or manual.

cheers
keith
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mse



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I had to check but yes it does.

Page 46 on the manual...but to be sure if you see the picture - if you dont have the dial you dont have it. Its a manual system:
http://www.ownerinfo.landrover.com/extfree.../index.htm Mike
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kljw



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Scotland 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Soft Top Auto Santorini Black
been looking a few pictures of the cockpit of svx. it appears that the SW has head lamp leveling and the soft top doesnt. is there anyone on here with a SVX soft top that can confirm this?

cheers
keith
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mse



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kljw wrote:
been looking a few pictures of the cockpit of svx. it appears that the SW has head lamp leveling and the soft top doesnt. is there anyone on here with a SVX soft top that can confirm this?

cheers
keith


Im in an SVX tomorrow ill try and check before i give it back (its a soft top) Mike
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kljw



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MSE
thanks for that. appreciated.

cheers
keith
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Ads90



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Kind of makes sense if the soft-top doesn't have it - with no rear seats and little load space it might not warrant them?
Post #7576 20th Feb 2009 9:42am
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kljw



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Ads90
kind of does, but not very good if to tow stuff,as i do. niot a big issue, will just need bare this in mind when hoohing up a load on the back.

cheers
keith
Post #7578 20th Feb 2009 10:53am
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Sticky



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I was under the impression that HID lighting had to have self leveling to comply with regulations?

"In the Department Of Transport's view it may not be legal to sell or use after market HID lighting kits, for converting conventional Halogen headlamps to HID Xenon. If a customer wants to convert his vehicle to Xenon HID he must purchase completely new Xenon HID headlamps. The reason for this is that the existing lens and reflector are designed around a Halogen filament bulb, working to very precise tolerances. If one places a HID "burner" (bulb) in the headlamp, the beam pattern will not be correct, there will be glare in some places and not enough light in other places within the beam pattern.


The following is the legal rationale:


The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations 1989 regulate the situation in the UK.
Under these Regulations, HID/Gas Discharge/Xenon headlamps are not mentioned and therefore they are not permitted according to the strict letter of the law.


However new vehicles have HID headlamps. This is because they comply to European type approval Regulations. The UK cannot refuse to register a vehicle with a European type approval. These are to ECE Regulation 98 (for the HID headlamps which are tested on a rig in a laboratory) and ECE Regulation 48 (Lighting Installation on the vehicle).


For the after market, a used vehicle cannot obtain type approval because it is only applicable for new vehicles. However we feel that saying "HID is banned in the after market" would not be reasonable. Instead we should make analogies with new vehicles. It would be reasonable to require HID in the after market to meet the same safety standards as on new vehicles. The same level of safety should apply.


Therefore a HID headlamp unit sold in the after market should:


1. be type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component.


2. when fitted to the vehicle should enable ECE Regulation 48 to be complied with (although no government inspection will take place).


3. Comply with RVLR as far as "use" is concerned.


In practice this means:


1. The headlamp unit (outer lens, reflector, bulb) shall be type approved to ECE 98 and be "e-marked" to demonstrate this. That can only be done by the headlamp supplier - Hella, Valeo etc. who must test the headlamp in an independent laboratory.


2. Once fitted to the vehicle it must have headlamp cleaning and self-levelling (which can be for the headlamp or can be in the vehicle suspension - some expensive estate cars have "self-levelling suspension" and that is adequate). Also the dipped beam must stay on with the main beam.


3. The headlamp must be maintained in good working order, kept clean, and aligned/adjusted correctly like any other headlamp.


Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.


In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above."
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Ads90



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kljw wrote:
Ads90
kind of does, but not very good if to tow stuff,as i do. niot a big issue, will just need bare this in mind when hoohing up a load on the back.

cheers
keith

Yeah - didn't think of towing!
At least if it doesn't - it should be relatively easy to put the standard levelling parts in - the loom and lamps will probably be the same...
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kljw



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Ads
never thought of that. will to investigate this further, and see if i can the bits off a salvaged SX or something. shame the diffy does nt come with HID lights, that would be good. Cheers
keith
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Sticky



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I have always thought they should have better main driving lights lights.

How do the HID lights and ballasts stand up to getting wet?

Are there any issues, I really like them on the cars I have had them on and I was interested to see if Bell Auto Servcies did anything more with his offering.

Sonic - Did your come from there?
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Grockle



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Both SVX models have auto leveling,having seen both at my local dealer. 2.4 90 XS
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Post #7586 20th Feb 2009 2:52pm
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mse



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Well - i cant recall if they have HIDs but can confirm it doesnt have auto leveling headlights in the 90 soft top does in the hard top Mike
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