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snowric



Member Since: 01 Aug 2011
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Alternator refit
OK, alternator failed, battery light.

I've managed to get the old one off and out but I just cannot seem to get the new one to stay put so I can gently wind in the top bolt. TOp bolt and threadsd are fine - I've checked without the alternator..

Havgin tried to use the belt to hold it up, I think it probably needs someone underneath supporting the not inconsiderable weight of the generator.

Any tips gratefully received.

My 9 year olod wasnnot impressed as I tried to get it on myself last night.

Apparently i was swearing a lot and she sleeps right above where I was working.

Big Cry Snowy
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Eduardo



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Snowric

I do the same work some time ago.
definitely is not a easy for just one person (almost impossible).
Finally I receive the help of my son to put the alternator in place and be able to fix the bolts.

Cheers! Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
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custom90



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It's shocking the LR of over ยฃ400 for one exc labour.

Could you have tried luggage straps / tie downs? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #758412 13th Feb 2019 4:50pm
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shropshiredefender



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Re: Alternator refit
snowric wrote:


Any tips gratefully received.

My 9 year olod wasnnot impressed as I tried to get it on myself last night.

Apparently i was swearing a lot and she sleeps right above where I was working.

Big Cry

Ear plugs or a more "peaceful" bedroom for your daughter Rolling with laughter
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snowric



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Very encouraging !!!

I found that if you pull the the serpentine belt around the alternator pulleythen you can use the belt to lift the alternator near the top bolt. I also removed the turbo air inlet - careful there is a rubber gasket in there. This gave me room to get my right hand in hold it. A bit hit and miss but a nights sleep and a day at work seemed to make it all doable.

I used a transit alternator aftermarket from Rimmer Brothers where I get a lot of Triumph stuff too. Letโ€™s see how long it lasts.

Btw, I thought these had a freewheel pulley but mine is locked solid to the rotor.

Am I imagining this ? Snowy
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custom90



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IIRC the factory Alternator is freewheel, supposed to save fuel I think and increased efficiency. (Don't quote me on that.)

That thought is a bit sketchy though.
I can't imagine why LR would be though abd the transit type not. Confused $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #758503 13th Feb 2019 10:16pm
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HardCharger



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Given the current location of the alternator, would we benefit from a relocation kit to mount it up higher in the engine bay? In it's current location, dunking it a few times via flood or river crossings will eventually kill it. As already stated, working with it in its current location is no picnic.

I discovered a company in Australia making totally sealed alternators and they are cooled by being plumbed into the coolant stream. Unfortunately, they only do L@nd Crui$er alternators for now. If someone can come up with something like that for us Puma owners, it will be an expensive but really worthwhile upgrade.

If budget is a concern, the aforementioned proposed alternator relocation kit will make more sense.

What do all y'all think?
Post #758532 14th Feb 2019 1:48am
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blackwolf



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One attraction of a relocation kit would be the elimination on non-a/c vehicles of that absurd bracket that holds the alternator and the a/c compressor. It is a ridiculous thing that makes access to the fixings for the front branch of the exhaust manifold next to impossible!

I don't see why the alternator couldn't be moved to a location similar to the a/c compressor if you don't have a/c.
Post #758562 14th Feb 2019 9:13am
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HardCharger



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True enough, blackwolf. A definite advantage for owners with no A/C. A solution for owners with A/C would be nice too!

I can't see why it can't be done though, some engines have this option.
Post #758741 15th Feb 2019 2:18am
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custom90



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Mechman make great HO Alternators, but getting a fit maybe easier said than done without being a one off order!

Is there any equivalent in the USA in the Ford line that would fit the 2.4 block? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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