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| dorsetsmith Member Since: 30 Oct 2011 Location: South West Posts: 4554  |
ALso HYBRID 5 year old battery packs ARE Completely F***
 running around petrol engine dragging 700kg dead battery packs also battery go around planet 2 time before being too run car
30 year running on one set of battery to offset damage and on average good for 5 year max |
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31st Jan 2019 4:30pm |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2530  
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I liked Tommo's rant, particularly about air travel. My wife and I were poo picking in our paddocks yesterday when we both remarked on the number of aircraft overhead (it was a lovely clear day in Lincolnshire). We counted 14, all within sight at the same time and passing from east to west, six of them were four engined jets. Shudder to think about the carbon footprint of that lot. Defender 90XS SW
Mini Countryman Cooper S Morgan Plus 8 |
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31st Jan 2019 4:45pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8051  
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Discomog, I think you should clarify your activity as being horse related! I am guessing? Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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31st Jan 2019 4:52pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3313 
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That or a very strange hobby.
JLR have just released a film called Going Electric. Didn't get further than the trailer myself and wasn't going to pay for it. It looked like a crappy corporate video to me but may be of interest to some. It is free if you have Amazon prime. |
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31st Jan 2019 4:59pm |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2530
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JST, just to confirm that the poo is of the equine variety. We have some bizarre pastimes in Lincolnshire, a combination of plane spotting and poo picking is one of the less offensive ones
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Mini Countryman Cooper S Morgan Plus 8 |
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31st Jan 2019 5:38pm |
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| excossack Member Since: 22 Feb 2012 Location: North West Posts: 5852 
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Could be worse, plane poo picking.... 1999 Defender TD5 110
Regards John M0VAZ Econet Station 48 no clock |
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31st Jan 2019 7:23pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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Completely agree about the comments on planes, food, plastics (although we need to be careful not to demonise sensible use of plastics and force people in to using worse things) and the concept of a 2t lump of metal ferrying around a 100kg human, the proportions are all wrong.
However EVs are not work of the devil. The vast majority of the batteries can be sensibly recycled, and whilst they do have some nasty bits in them that require environmentally hazardous mining/extraction they don't have anything on the environmental impact of bringing oil out of the ground. If you have to drive somewhere, an EV is by far the least bad way of doing it even if your electricity is from coal (which it isn't). A little known fact is how much electricity fossil fuel burning cars use as a result of refining oil. The electricity used to produce enough petrol to drive an ICE car 10 miles will drive an equivalent EV 5 miles. EVs do use more electricity than ICE cars but far less than you might thing, and most use it at a useful time of day (overnight) rather than at peak periods. EVs are a very small part of a very big problem, but that doesn't mean they don't have a place. Edit to add: I'm really irritated by Ecotricity's "vegan electricity" adverts going round at the moment. Generating electricity from waste is an eminently sensible thing to do, no matter where the waste comes from. |
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31st Jan 2019 8:29pm |
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| davew Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 888  
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It's not a bad documentary although a bit light in detail for me in places. There is some interesting info on the engine/transmission and the battery pack but it does go a bit heavy into styling and comfort so a bit frustrating from an engineering PoV. They also gloss over a few bits, like when they are doing a continuous high speed test, they bring the vehicle in from time to time and lift it into the air, checking brakes, wheels, steering etc... for safety then the vehicle drives back out of the garage and carries on... no mention of having to wait until it's charged back up again ! http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/ |
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31st Jan 2019 9:39pm |
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| davew Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 888
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Regarding the EV versus ICE debate...I wonder how efficient this is...
https://www.harrogateadvertiser.co.uk/news...-1-9433065 http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/ |
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31st Jan 2019 9:43pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3511 
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Until it stopped working, I had an aircraft tracker app on my iPad.
Yes, it’s really scary the shear amount of planes that are over head. We see the corridor of planes in Norfolk which fly north of the coast, across The Wash and are the one’s Dicomog can see above him in Lincolnshire. They are usually planes from Europe and the Middle East flying to Canada and the US. They then go up towards Scotland and thus infamously over Lockerbie. I haven’t flown in five years. I may have taken three long haul and four or five short haul flights in the previous 10 years to that. When you consider the millions of people flying from UK airports every year, someone is flying more frequently than me and the current Mrs Rashers! It will be a brave politician/environmentalist that tells the great British public they can’t fly to go on holiday. I still wonder who’s taking all these flights. It’s definately not me and it’s not the people I work with? |
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31st Jan 2019 9:54pm |
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