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sako243

Member Since: 08 Jul 2014
Location: Wales
Posts: 1219

1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Alpine White

blackwolf wrote:
I was brought up in the school that believed you should never use breeze blocks, bricks, or any material like that, since they they can crumble and kill you. Timber is good, however, since it doesn't crumble.

It is useful for many purposes to have a supply of sawn blocks of regular size to build cribbing.

The major benefit is that timber over steel and concrete gives you warning when it's about to go. Not much but it'usually creak and crack before going. Steel and concrete just tends to go.

May not give you much but some is better than one if it means you can scrabble out from underneath.

I've gone the route of a 4" fence post cut up and screwed together to make it wider, I happened to have a load of posts lying around where the bottoms had rotted out. At my parents we had a 3.5t mini digger and a barn so ended up with a pit

Ed
82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6
95 Defender 110 300Tdi

27th May 2018 6:52am

NickMc

Member Since: 01 Oct 2014
Location: Norn Iron
Posts: 1627

When I have to I use axle stands and a trolley jack....you’d almost think that’s what they’re designed for

(Have to that is as I have four and two post lifts and don’t lie on the ground anymore, that’s for
Apprentice’s

)

28th May 2018 4:28pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17414

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Ramps? Who needs them?

Back in the 1980s I needed to do a spot of welding on my 86" chassis for the MoT. I've never liked overhead welding, so this was the obvious solution. I subsequently rebuilt the vehicle onto a new galvanised chassis, since the old one was (by the standards of the time) beyond economic repair.

The vehicle is actually supported by the roll hoop which is resting on a spare inflated tyre.

It was surprising how hard it was to tip over (it needed a 6' Hilift under the bulkhead outrigger to reach the point of balance, a 4' wasn't tall enough) and how easy to tip back (I only had to jack the roll hoop about 18" before it rolled back upright and thoroughly tested the strength of my welding) . I had made sure that there was very little fuel in the tank, and had removed the battery.

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4th Jun 2018 12:11pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6298

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

X4SKP wrote:
Hello Doc P

I agree with the comments so far...

For general 'easy to get under work', I took 4 'standard' Metal Ramps,
added some extra metal work, base level cross elements to prevent splaying
and to allow the metal ramps to engage with wooden base blocks, these also
'grip' better on our gravel hard standing area.

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On top of these Ramps I added wider run up ramps, which were old Pipe transporter
spacers, which add a little extra height and help with the 'progressive' drive up...
stop at the 4th indent!

I went the extra step when applying Dinitrol of lifting the Defender off each Ramp,
reversing the rear two Ramps so that they face inwards (matching the front Ramps)
then resting the whole Land Rover on a combination of Oak Sleeper Blocks and 4 smaller
Oak Blocks 'profiled' to engage with the Axle load points.

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Over all this raise the Defender just short of 0.5M and with carful placement of all elements
the only real movement was within the suspension elements.

Good Luck...

I also thought this looked a bit scary until I noticed the 'two safety lines' holding the back up should the wooden blocks etc slip / move.

4th Jun 2018 2:33pm

Doc P

Member Since: 03 Apr 2016
Location: Midlands
Posts: 565

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Firenze Red

Thanks to all....................I'm just not sure if I'm any the wiser!

Might hire a mini digger then.

Ian

4th Jun 2018 4:31pm

Markez79

Member Since: 27 Jun 2018
Location: South West
Posts: 201

X4SKP wrote:
auto jacking is possible...

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errrr! Who makes this?! Never seen this before but looks clever....and expensive!

15th Jan 2019 9:49am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17414

I rather hope that there is some positive locking device on that to eliminate the possibility of accidental deployment. Also if there is a front one, I wonder if it is hinged at the front or back.

The possibilities for a spectacular failure are endless......

15th Jan 2019 10:38am

deaallen

Member Since: 15 Feb 2016
Location: Basingstoke
Posts: 264

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Santorini Black

I'm needing to change my clutch soon, and I'm now wondering if some sleepers would give me enough room

15th Jan 2019 10:48am

Mo Murphy

Member Since: 01 Jun 2008
Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts
Posts: 2235

1984 Defender 90 BMW M57 3.0 Diesel HT Auto Pennine Grey

That's the Bowler jack that was fitted for one of the desert comps IIRC.
Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen.

50 Shades of Pennine Grey

15th Jan 2019 11:56am

Markez79

Member Since: 27 Jun 2018
Location: South West
Posts: 201

Thanks

15th Jan 2019 12:33pm

hank

Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
Posts: 2301

Interesting method I saw on youtube recently

> 110 XS Double Cab

15th Jan 2019 1:11pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17414

I don't think that that is a method I would recommend, and I don't think his risk assessment was very thorough!

10/10 for creativity though.

15th Jan 2019 2:05pm

kmac

Member Since: 07 Oct 2009
Location: Middlesex
Posts: 1309

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

hank wrote:
Interesting method I saw on youtube recently

balancing on some road wheels carrying a transfer box..... nice

15th Jan 2019 3:48pm

Caterham

Member Since: 06 Nov 2008
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 6298

I often wonder how accidents happen......

15th Jan 2019 3:50pm

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17414

^^ I imagine in his case it was defective birth control!

15th Jan 2019 4:14pm

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