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rockster57



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Auxiliary Air Springs
I’d like to eliminate the suspension sag when I’m fully laden with weighty camping kit but not compromise the ride when unladen. With the ability to inflate/deflate as and when necessary in the system below seems ideal. Does anyone have any experience with this?


https://shop.landreiziger.nl/air-lift-hulp...ery-1.html
Post #751163 14th Jan 2019 10:08am
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jfh



Member Since: 08 Jan 2014
Location: West Coast
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South Africa 2007 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Chawton White
Looks exactly like the Firestone air springs, maybe you could get it cheaper at them.
Post #751202 14th Jan 2019 3:02pm
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Harry.O



Member Since: 25 Jul 2014
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United Kingdom 1989 Defender 90 300 Tdi ST Nato Green
No experience with the air springs myself but Paddocks sell a very similar (if not identical) kit.

https://www.paddockspares.com/da5010-air-l...-pair.html 2005 Td5 110 Hardtop
1989 300Tdi 90 Soft top
1992 200Tdi 90 Truck cab with Land Cruiser axles
Post #751205 14th Jan 2019 3:28pm
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Caterham



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England 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
not sure if it's what you're looking for but there are kits that give you true air suspension like on the disco 3 (at least it's similar so far as I'm aware) ie different ride heights etc.

some what more expensive but might be the best long term solution?

IRB have fitted quote a few of them now. Not really sure about feed back on them other than to say I've not heard anything negative about them......might even be an investment if you can get into the cheaper / lower price bracket on Ferries where price is based on height Mr. Green
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rockster57



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Zermatt Silver
Caterham - thank you for the suggestion. I like the idea of a full air set up like the one you mention but as my 90 is a stop gap until I progress to a 110, it’s not the type of investment I’m wanting to make at this time. Thumbs Up

jfh and Harry. Thank you for the alternative supplier tips Thumbs Up
Post #751216 14th Jan 2019 4:00pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
I have them on my 110. Been on 8 years. Posted my thoughts not long ago on the 130 suspension thread that was about. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #751256 14th Jan 2019 6:28pm
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jocklandjohn



Member Since: 16 Sep 2016
Location: Highlands
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Scotland 1989 Defender 110 200 Tdi HT Oslo Blue
Re: Auxiliary Air Springs
rockster57 wrote:
I’d like to eliminate the suspension sag when I’m fully laden with weighty camping kit but not compromise the ride when unladen. With the ability to inflate/deflate as and when necessary in the system below seems ideal. Does anyone have any experience with this?


https://shop.landreiziger.nl/air-lift-hulp...ery-1.html


I've fitted the AirLift ones to my 110. Work just fine. T'd them to the rear and pump up with bike pump, takes all the saggy rear end out of the equation when I have a load of water/fuel/gear/bikes on back etc. And then can drop pressure for normal use.

Caveat - the top fixing plug is total rubbish and works its way out (AirLift are aware of this and were working on a solution

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) but I got fed up waiting so I got creative - you can fix this with a standard LR part used for adding helper springs (coil) Item 22 on parts diagram

. See following pictures - should be clear enough:

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Post #754406 27th Jan 2019 9:25pm
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jocklandjohn



Member Since: 16 Sep 2016
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Scotland 1989 Defender 110 200 Tdi HT Oslo Blue
The fix has been installed for two years noww and has not moved. Perfect solution. Easy peasy fix - I cut the plug with a Bosch oscillating tool - went through it like hot knife through butter.
Post #754407 27th Jan 2019 9:27pm
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
interesting in that the top dognut on mine havent popped out. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #754654 28th Jan 2019 9:51pm
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jocklandjohn



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Scotland 1989 Defender 110 200 Tdi HT Oslo Blue
Lucky you! Apparently its not uncommon. No idea if AirLift have got the fix sorted, but what I did is ok so far.
Post #754674 28th Jan 2019 10:52pm
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8619simon



Member Since: 04 Nov 2016
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Wales 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green
Both went on mine, AirLift replacing on warranty but no fix proposed. A South African reseller apparently made one with a steel ring to reinforce the lip but according to AirLift this is for lifted or modified suspension and would void the warranty if used.

I'm going to do the mod above on mine when I get them, apart from this they work great.
Post #754759 29th Jan 2019 12:58pm
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jocklandjohn



Member Since: 16 Sep 2016
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Scotland 1989 Defender 110 200 Tdi HT Oslo Blue
Aye its an odd one. I have no idea whether its a manufacturing problem or a variation on Defender top mounts (or a combinatoin of both perhaps), but there was no doubt with mine - it was almost through the top hole and wiggling free!
Post #754764 29th Jan 2019 1:12pm
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bear100



Member Since: 22 Mar 2010
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Wales 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Just noticed my top fixing on the passenger side has popped, did AirLift ever make the effort to rectify? 2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8
2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI
2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone)
2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone)
1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone)
1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone)
1994 discovery 300tdi (gone)
90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone)
Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone)
Post #855350 10th Sep 2020 5:04pm
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jst



Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
my 110 ones are still fitted no problem. just added a set (last month or so) to the 130 and mouldings are the same as my 110 ones that are 9 years old. not sure if thats a new or old style but they havent been a problem. Sure they are 110 top mouldings and not 90 ones? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #855355 10th Sep 2020 5:20pm
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8619simon



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Wales 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green
I had no end of trouble with mine and ended up doing the mod above which has solved the problem and works well. It does look like Air Lift have finally acknowledged there is a problem and do now provide an upgraded version of the top spacer:

https://air-lift.co.uk/load-support/load-s...pgrade-kit
Post #855372 10th Sep 2020 7:16pm
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