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cartoonhead Member Since: 02 Mar 2018 Location: Bucks Posts: 135 |
I’ve recently been thinking I should beef up the standard shocks on my 130, which got me thinking whether I should also change the springs. It’s a 2015 130 everything stock suspension wise, will be heavily loaded and used off-road for extended periods.
For shocks I like the look of the Koni heavy track raid best so far. What suspension setup would you recommend for my requirements? @tab.travels on instagram Defender 130 2.2 TDCI Defender 90 TD5 80" CCV Trialer 4.6 V8 (14CUX) Stage One V8 109 - 3.5 V8 Stage One V8 109 - 4.6 V8 (GEMS) - in progress Range Rover L322 4.4 TDV8 Freelander 1 2.0 TD4 |
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2nd Jun 2018 6:09am |
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Tdi4 Member Since: 24 Oct 2014 Location: Houten Posts: 513 |
If you have Some spare cash i would definetly Go for air suspension.
Added benefit that it has a self leveling function. It’s about 5k euro a defender from 1984 pretending to be a puma with a touch of Range Rover |
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2nd Jun 2018 6:45am |
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cartoonhead Member Since: 02 Mar 2018 Location: Bucks Posts: 135 |
I was thinking about getting the air helpers, but I think they limit articulation off road? I don’t fancy going all air, too much to go weong on a overland vehicle.
As I’ve already got the helper springs I might leave them stock and just get some updated shocks and a x-eng ARB, which should improve things on and off road. @tab.travels on instagram Defender 130 2.2 TDCI Defender 90 TD5 80" CCV Trialer 4.6 V8 (14CUX) Stage One V8 109 - 3.5 V8 Stage One V8 109 - 4.6 V8 (GEMS) - in progress Range Rover L322 4.4 TDV8 Freelander 1 2.0 TD4 |
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2nd Jun 2018 9:03am |
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Tdi4 Member Since: 24 Oct 2014 Location: Houten Posts: 513 |
I've seen a setup with air helpers which he could inflate manually
So really low tech. Big advantage was that whilst not driving with heavy loads he had a normal driving experience a defender from 1984 pretending to be a puma with a touch of Range Rover |
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2nd Jun 2018 9:37am |
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markalpha Member Since: 23 Apr 2008 Location: Downham Market Posts: 690 |
We had a 130 very similar to yours but we used oz tent rather than a roof tent. We did a 2 1/2 week overland trip through Portugal on a standard suspension set up. Springs we’re fine and shocks were ok, I would up grade the shocks for warmer weather. But it coped well off road apart from Hairpins bends on a few tracks
There was 3 of us in the vehicle and we had plenty of space for our gear. Just remember not to pack the kitchen just because you have space for it. No point carrying extra weight if you don’t need too. |
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2nd Jun 2018 11:30am |
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Mcmuffin Member Since: 01 Apr 2014 Location: Antwerp city Posts: 38 |
We have Fox adjustable shocks. They did very well on our last trip to France
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3rd Jan 2019 9:18pm |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8084 |
I would keep it as std as possible with respect to mounting points and length of shocks. Oem are exceptionally good, the only time I have felt the need to upgrade them is travelling in warmer climates for longer periods. I would keep std springs if she is sitting level when loaded, you can't fit air helpers inside the rears if they have assisted springs. If it needs a lift or you vary weight alot then air helpers rear instead of assist springs are good option. Ran them on my 110 for 8 years now, pump them up for overland of heavy towing, run them 6psi rest of time.
If you feel shocks need changing them ome would get my vote. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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4th Jan 2019 6:45am |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
Have you got any more detail about the air helpers and the springs that you use them with, James? My 110 spends quite a lot of time empty but I don't really want to sacrifice the load capacity for when I do need it. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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4th Jan 2019 8:00am |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8084 |
Exactly my issue, empty lots and then fully loaded 4mths of year. Will dig out helper info. Springs std usw rears. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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4th Jan 2019 8:13am |
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jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8084 |
https://www.paddockspares.com/da5011-air-l...gKXe_D_BwE Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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4th Jan 2019 9:10pm |
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landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5732 |
When I used to overland and off road I swapped to pin pin rear setup and I think it was plus 5” old man emu dampers. All with Gwyn Lewis setup. Reasons for this was that Gwyn Lewis said the pin pin doesn’t fail, such as snapping off the top and bottom mounting of the damper. It’s the same damper front a rear, so if you wanted to carry spare less required. It’s also the same damper as Land Cruiser uses, so just as easy to source if you do have one fail. Bigger damper carries more oil, so stays cooler. On top of that you get the great articulation which made the off-road stuff much smoother, especially when fully loaded
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4th Jan 2019 9:34pm |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
Thanks, James. That wasn't what I expected, to be honest. I'd assumed that the air helpers allowed you to run lighter springs than standard to get the benefit when running empty. Also, the kit that you linked to is for a 90. Is that the one you're using on a 110? Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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4th Jan 2019 10:12pm |
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familymad Member Since: 13 Dec 2011 Location: Bucks Posts: 3481 |
Just go the whole hog and get portals
https://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/thr...als.37713/ 1951 80" S1 2.0 1995 110 300TDI 1995 90 300TDI |
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4th Jan 2019 10:33pm |
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AJC Member Since: 30 Nov 2015 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1364 |
This is what I have done, my mate that I go out with has the same on his, so we can in theory carry a spare or 2 between us and we're both covered then. |
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5th Jan 2019 7:15am |
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