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| Lateralus Member Since: 05 Jan 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 185  
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Looks like they hit the market in March 2019 and the diesel version in 2020.
https://youtu.be/zi2kRmzDH9o |
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29th Nov 2018 3:04am |
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| Lateralus Member Since: 05 Jan 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 185
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I dont mind if anyone here bashes the jeep. I love to argue and have fun.
I am guessing the base model gladiator sport model will have a $38-40k pricetag. It is expensive but be thankful because in the US, a 25 year old defender with 50-100k miles in good condition will go for about the same or more and not hold a candle to the modern wrangler or defender. Iam hoping the 3.0 ecodiesel will be a good powerplant. I know nothing about it other than it's been in previous non wrangler models. I've never even owned a diesel but jeep wrangler owners have been begging for a diesel for a decade or more. Diesel is more expensive in the US sometimes by a dollar per gallon. Regular gasoline prices have been going down for weeks now and this morning it was $1.99/gallon. The US government really hates diesel for some reason. I am hoping that the president takes an axe to the EPA and other bloated agencies and takes them down a couple of pegs. |
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29th Nov 2018 5:43pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1428  
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The whole of Europe hates diesel now, after years of promoting it as a way of cutting CO2 emissions.
It turns out it was all false claims and blatant lies. I'm surprised that just as the rest of the world is turning away, the US market for diesel is expanding. Great to hear the gas price is coming down. I can't wait for my next US road trip in some V6 gasoline Jeeps  |
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29th Nov 2018 7:42pm |
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| Lateralus Member Since: 05 Jan 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 185
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That's interesting. I always assumed Europe favored diesel because fuel economy was better than petrol.
If your ever in southern Ohio give me a shout and you can take my wrangler for a spin. |
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29th Nov 2018 8:00pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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20" longer wheelbase than the JL Unlimited - that makes it 140" which is huge! |
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29th Nov 2018 8:23pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1428
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People preferred diesel because the fuel taxes made running any large car or 4x4 very expensive. The better fuel economy of a diesel certainly helps when you're paying £6.00 a gallon or more. That's somewhere between $7.50 to $9.00 depending on the fuel price and exchange rates in recent years.
The U.K. Government promoted the sale and use of diesel cars for around 18 years by reducing vehicle tax (Road Tax or Vehicle Excise Duty, call it what you like, it's a tax for owning a car) for those with lower CO2 emissions. Lower CO2 was the main focus to reduce climate change effects. Now it turns out the diesels we were sold produce lots of carcinogens, other nasty things and the CO2 benefits were exaggerated. There's plans to ban diesel from some cities to clean up the air pollution. So the love of diesel is over. Thanks for the offer of the Jeep ride. We're going from Denver to Las Vegas with a Grand Cherokee, via Moab and the Easer Jeep Safari. |
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29th Nov 2018 8:58pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4217 
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I think benefit in kind taxation for company car users was heavily stacked in favour of diesel for a long time too.
There’s some good pics of the Gladiator on Auto Express today. It looks superb. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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29th Nov 2018 9:03pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1428
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It does look huge, I really like the gobi colour,
 Click image to enlarge One of these with a demountable camper body in the pickup bed would be great. Click image to enlarge |
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29th Nov 2018 9:29pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769  
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@ lateralus, Completely off topic but I always mean to ask, are you a brain surgeon or a “tool” if you get what I mean
  Ray
My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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30th Nov 2018 9:20am |
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| Lateralus Member Since: 05 Jan 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 185
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I am a major tool
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30th Nov 2018 5:34pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769
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 Ray
My build thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html |
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2nd Dec 2018 1:14pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17450 
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It's just been reported on the BBC news that the new Wrangler has achieved a magnificent one star safety rating at Thatcham, a dismal score for a new £50k vehicle (BBC's reported price).
That is however one star more than the Fiat Panda, only the second car in history to be awarded zero stars (the other was also a Fiat). |
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6th Dec 2018 10:51pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1428
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These are bad results for Fiat Chrysler Automobiles.
Punto, no stars 2017 Panda, no stars 2018 Wrangler, 1 star 2018 I can't find any evidence that Thatcham have tested a Defender. The dummy probably refused to to get in. |
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7th Dec 2018 11:54pm |
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