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Eduardo



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Clutch problem
Hi there!
Coming back from vacations....
Saddly with the car towing Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry
When the clutch were depressed and try to change the gear an strange noise appear.

The car is just in the dealer and they said that the problem is the clutch (my impression also)

Well, just to have the argument to discuss with them that the failure is "normal" in this model I would like to know of many of you had problems with the clutch and has been repaired under guarantee.

Thanks! Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Grockle



Member Since: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Peak District National Park
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Welcome back Ed,I thnk the clutch warranty is 15.000 miles or 2 yrs 2.4 90 XS
1968 1/32 scale Britains 109 Pick up.
Post #7355 16th Feb 2009 4:20pm
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mse



Member Since: 06 Apr 2008
Location: UK
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United Kingdom 2016 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Scotia Grey
3 years for all the car except user service parts such as the brakepads.

A clutch should last for 70k easy Mike
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fekete



Member Since: 24 Dec 2008
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
EDUARDO,

Mine went in at 16.500 miles
release bearing clutch flywheel dealear had no problems with changing it,
Everything 3 years except service parts Thumbs Up


Hope vacation went well NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #7357 16th Feb 2009 4:43pm
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The Boy



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
Mine went at 7000 mile so it is due again Laughing
Post #7358 16th Feb 2009 4:47pm
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Not the first time I hear about the clutch! Anybody knows what the problem is? Any "typical bulletin service" on this matter (yet)?
Post #7363 16th Feb 2009 6:17pm
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CapeLandy



Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Cape Town
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South Africa 
My slave cylinder failed twice - had a call from dealer this pm to collect my baby tomorrow am.
Hope they sorted all the faults I listed for them to attend.
Somehow doubt it though Sad Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #7365 16th Feb 2009 6:47pm
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Eduardo



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
MK I found it!

LTB00166
Subject/Concern: Clutch Noise/Poor Selection
Models:
Defender (LD) 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. VIN-range: 7A732615-9A766150
Markets: All
Section: 308-00
Summary:
Potential difficult gear selection and noise in clutch operation.
Cause: Improvements have been made to the specification of the clutch plate and clutch cover to
address both the potentially difficult gear selection and noise during clutch operation
concerns.Suggested customer concern code P24.
Action: Should it become necessary to install the clutch kit assembly, refer to the new procedure
detailed in Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 308-00.
Parts Required:
Description Part Number Quantity
Clutch kit Assembly. URB500080 1
Labour Time:
Operation Description Operation No. Time
Clutch kit Assembly Renew. 33.10.01 3.9 hours
Repair/Claim Coding:
Causal Part: URB500080
ACES Condition
Code: Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #7367 16th Feb 2009 7:17pm
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
Ok, thanks. Still looks a bit obscure. Did you experiment any of those symptoms? or the pump failed?

I guess your TDCi Mpg`s improved at the end

salut

MK
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
New clutch flywheel & release bearing
mine was in 8 days,
could have fitted it faster myself and i no nothing about machanics, Rolling with laughter
Im a carpenter NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #7369 16th Feb 2009 8:15pm
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Daniel TD5



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United Kingdom 1986 Defender 90 Other ST Nato Green
i had the new type fitted after clutch changes at 6 and 12 thousand now 18 thousand no problems so far

new type came our 08/08

daniel
Post #7370 16th Feb 2009 8:27pm
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CapeLandy



Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
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South Africa 
Just collected mine an hour ago.
They changed the slave cylinder again.
Said noisy gearbox rattle at low revs is a "landrover thing" and mine was far less noisy then the other units on the floor.
Asked them to put it in writing and they said I should rather have LR south africa have a listen and make sure they concur.
They are supposed to be here later in the week.
Lets hope the noise is normal after all so I can sleep easier at night and not worry that something breaks day after warenty expires. Puma 110 - gone
Series III 1973 - going strong
Post #7396 17th Feb 2009 11:00am
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MK



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
Location: Santiago
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
So far the clutch mechanism shows the following problems:

1) clutch plate and clutch cover (part URB500080)
2) perhaps the release bearing
3) slave cylinder


anything else?

MK Puma 110" SW

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Post #7397 17th Feb 2009 12:05pm
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
CAPELANDY

Had my clutch replaced and flywheel release bearing and my rattle in gearbox went
No noise at all Confused NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
Post #7398 17th Feb 2009 12:12pm
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mrwoo



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
CapeLandy wrote:
Just collected mine an hour ago.
They changed the slave cylinder again.
Said noisy gearbox rattle at low revs is a "landrover thing" and mine was far less noisy then the other units on the floor.
Asked them to put it in writing and they said I should rather have LR south africa have a listen and make sure they concur.
They are supposed to be here later in the week.
Lets hope the noise is normal after all so I can sleep easier at night and not worry that something breaks day after warenty expires.


The noise they are referring to as being quite normal at low revs I am assuming is when your travelling in 1st with no accelaration. This clattering sound used to happen on my 300TDi and also happens on my Puma which has covered 31k with no clutch replacement. I wouldn't worry about tuning into sounds like that as Defender's whether you like it or or not have all got old techonolgy when it comes to the drive train. The LT230 transfer box is probably 20 years old in design and as far as the axles and diffs probably 30 years +.
Post #7404 17th Feb 2009 1:18pm
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