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Froglaise



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flydive wrote:
Well, then, like I said there could be an issue with Switzerland.

First, I own 2 cars with the same registration, the RRS and the Defender.

Second, the registration is personal in Switzerland, my plates follow me al my life, from car to car.


Yes I remember that from my time there but when the system comes online in a couple of weeks I'm sure the French have some way to get around it.
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Froglaise



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Mountain_man wrote:
They had this back in Germany when I lived there 20 years ago. Not allowed to drive into Central Stuttgart unless you had a "green Sticker" Has since become a whole lot stricter too and rolled out to many other cities. However, and don't quote me here, once a car becomes an "oldtimer" (possibly 30 years old, need to check) it ceases to be part of the regulations. Is that hidden anywhere in the small print for the French regulations per chance?

Just clutching at straws since my 110 is 34 years old now Smile


Yes, collectors cars are exempt as long as marked as such. This can be by black registration plates (only for cars 30yrs+), recognised classic car club sticker or some other way. Does not need to be 30yrs old necessarily but older than 31.12.96
I've 2 cars here one a 1988 and one a 1991, both insured and marked as collectors cars and living in Paris.

It's odd that a car registered before 1997 is now not allowed in Paris mon-fri only for it then to be allowed again once it's 30 or sooner if someone decides it's a classic.
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shaggydog



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Votre véhicule ne répond pas aux critères retenus pour l'attribution d'un certificat qualité de l'air.


Or Your vehicle does not meet the criteria for an air quality certificate.

Merde! Laughing

Oh well wont do my next trip to the continent via Paris, their loss Whistle Running Restoration Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/post323197.html#323197

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Post #594394 19th Jan 2017 12:36pm
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ericvv



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We have a bit of air pollution here right now due to a month long period of cold weather and total absence of wind and precipitation. Well, when it rains in Paris, it drizzles in Geneva. Rolling Eyes
This here (translated) is in our local newspaper today....
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In addition, the Department is currently studying a new provision, similar to that of France: it could restrict the movement of vehicles in the event of pollution spikes. Concretely, the development of macarons of colors, allowing to characterize the vehicles according to their environmental impact, is envisaged.
Unquote You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
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Froglaise



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Concretely, the development of macarons of colors, allowing to characterize the vehicles






Not entirely sure they will be effective, concreted on or otherwise
Rolling with laughter
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mk1collector



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I'd much rather have those on my dash than the sticker in my window Whistle Ray
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Post #596810 27th Jan 2017 6:14pm
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flydive



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If you travel quite a bit over Europe, soon you will not be able to see out of the windshield, for all the stickers...
Post #596836 27th Jan 2017 7:18pm
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womble



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f.a.o.ericvv does this include the kennedy tunnel or is it only within the city and not on the autoroute ?
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diduan



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What about winching yourself in and out of the city...It may take some time, but it's electric drive Laughing Defender 110 SW MY2011 2.4tdci decat, no EGR
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Post #609270 14th Mar 2017 3:16am
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ericvv



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womble wrote:
f.a.o.ericvv does this include the kennedy tunnel or is it only within the city and not on the autoroute ?


City only, Kennedy tunnel and ring road remain outside the lez there. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
Post #609280 14th Mar 2017 5:37am
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Rallymental



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The video and accompanying description says that the sticker has to be placed in the lower right hand corner of the windscreen. This is presumably for road safety reasons for French left hand drive cars. There doesn't appear to be an alternative position allowed for those of us who drive on the correct side of the road with our steering wheels on the correct side of the car Whistle
Unlike the Swiss vignette which simply has to be in the front windscreen and clearly visible. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.
Solihull, 1948 - "If we paint the chassis, it will last for years"
Solihull, 2015 - "If we paint the chassis.............................
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proloForêt



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Why these crazy words "anti-defender" ?
This passing is for all the vehicule that going into Paris city. Not just for Land Rover. You can go also with the Land Rover when you want normally no problem if you want. Thumbs Up

Léo
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Julie



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... for one day in Paris without vignette they're gonna charge you € 68 Cool

... and you can even enjoy Paris nights in your old car for free from 8 to 6 Wink
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andrewlandy



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Solution
I have a solution to this. Don't go to, or live in France......In Italy people are nicer, wine is better, property is cheaper and the police are all petrol heads.

vive les italiens!!!!

Very Happy
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flydive



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You mean that Italy where since a couple of days Euro 3 are not allowed in a lot of towns during the week?

The same that for other Euro in some towns you have to buy a ticket in advance everytime you want to enter?
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