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RobM



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Cracked TD4 Exhaust Manifold (2.4ltr) - What are my options?
Hey Guys,

My 1st post here so hopefully this is the right section to post this.....

I've recently purchased a 2009 Defender 2.4ltr Tdci 110 Wagon. It's just come back from its 1st service with a report that there is a "crack" in the exhaust manifold. I'm not sure if this is common (it's not from what I can tell) but I'm now looking for what options I have to get this fixed. I priced a new one from LR and that option is a bit outside my budget for the moment so what other options do I have?

Being the same engine from a Ford Transit, will one of those manifolds from the 2.4 Transit be the same as what I have? If so, where is the best place to source one from?
Is a 2nd hand an option that I should look at as this would be an affordable option for me atm?

Welcoming advice and ideas...

cheers
rob
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blackwolf



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It is not unusual for the TDCi to suffer from leaks and failed gaskets at the joints either between the head and the manifold or between the manifold and the turbo, but it is fairly unusual though not unknown for the manifold itself to crack. Once cracked, it is exceptionally difficult to repair a cast iron manifold (not impossible but a very specialised repair) so replacement is usually the sensible option.

In the UK, my suggestion would be to go for a 2nd-hand manifold, unfortunately I don't know if the transit manifold is the same, I think it is, but cannot be certain. Defender manifolds are harder to find 2nd-hand since more often than not they cost £2k and come with a free engine.

I would try to establish that the manifold really is cracked before replacing it it, it would be unfortunate to do that only to find it was actually a gasket leaking.
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Theater



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Hi RobM !

Welcome !

Have your pictures of your exhaust manifold ? Marco

Defender 110 "SW" SE Galway Green MY 2009
Ex Defender 90 "SW" S Santorini Black MY 2010
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hornet



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Re: Cracked TD4 Exhaust Manifold (2.4ltr) - What are my opti
RobM wrote:

Being the same engine from a Ford Transit, will one of those manifolds from the 2.4 Transit be the same as what I have? If so, where is the best place to source one from?
Is a 2nd hand an option that I should look at as this would be an affordable option for me atm?
rob


Check http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic48786.html
Post #727525 6th Sep 2018 11:14am
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RobM



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Theater wrote:
Hi RobM !

Welcome !

Have your pictures of your exhaust manifold ?



Pictures attached.... the manifold is definitely cracked
(hopefully I've attached them properly so u can see them)

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Theater



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Re: Cracked TD4 Exhaust Manifold (2.4ltr) - What are my opti
RobM wrote:
Pictures attached....


Thanks ! Marco

Defender 110 "SW" SE Galway Green MY 2009
Ex Defender 90 "SW" S Santorini Black MY 2010
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pannawonica



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I would not attempt repair, the cost over here and longevity of said repair questionable! As said trannie one probably is the way too go, however one from Uk either new or breaker maybe evan with fright maybe cheaper! I buy my filter kits cheaper from pomgolia! Very Happy Thumbs Up Bring on Brexit not Brino and we’ll sell you great Australian vin! Happy days!
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MartinK



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Looks like it's Part # LR004489

About £300-£400 dependant on supplier...

One on ebay... https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=ro...p;_sacat=0

I guess you'll also need all the gaskets etc so will probably increase the price quite a bit

ACCORDING TO THE SUPPLIER WEBSITE IT'S THE SAME MANIFOLD AS THE TRANSIT... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's)
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zsd-puma



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It's highly likely it's the same manifold as the Transit 2.4. The Turbo is in the same position on the transit so I don't see why it would be different.
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neon1991



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if you look at the listed manifold above on emay you will also see that the compatible vehicles lists the transit Wink
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MMR1988



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It is just a part from a Ford Transit.
I tend to say the Ford number is 6C1Q-9430-CD.

/Max
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RobM



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neon1991 wrote:
if you look at the listed manifold above on emay you will also see that the compatible vehicles lists the transit Wink


thanks for that
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RobM



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MMR1988 wrote:
It is just a part from a Ford Transit.
I tend to say the Ford number is 6C1Q-9430-CD.

/Max



Cool, thanks... I've managed to source a 2nd hand one locally, so I'll see how that goes for the moment...

thanks all for your replies
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zsd-puma



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I suppose you could take the opportunity to polish the inside of it, it's not a sports car but it wont do any harm.
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