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custom90



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Electric sidesteps
Has anyone ever known these for a Defender? I've seen some before in the States that lower when you open the doors or open the central locking but when you close the doors they go back up and retract.

Surely that'd be the best of both worlds for clearance and look for some.
Although I could see protection being lessened and a possible problem if stuck upto the seals for example.

Curious to what others views are? Maybe interesting to some and no go for others. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #725122 23rd Aug 2018 9:25pm
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deaallen



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Looks cool
Post #725123 23rd Aug 2018 9:28pm
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custom90



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I can't listen to the video just at the moment but those are exactly the ones and type I mean and their action of how they work. Thumbs Up

I would imagine fitting would not be easy, but I'm curious as to why there seems to be no suppliers for Defenders. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #725124 23rd Aug 2018 9:36pm
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bankz5152



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2004 Defender 110 Td5 DCPU Epsom Green
Been looking at something like this myself for a while not found much at all bar a company in the US that do them for Wranglers and the various pickups. All totally different to a 110! And at an average cost of $2k Embarassed

Im supprised no one like the vomit inducing Kahn have come up with yet. Theres plenty of space for some under a 110 though the out riggers could be an issue! Instagram @defender_ventures
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Post #725125 23rd Aug 2018 9:38pm
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custom90



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It must be possible, it seems just that traditional fixed designs have been stuck to without any new designs being undertaken. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #725126 23rd Aug 2018 9:47pm
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zsd-puma



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
they were an option on the late L322 Range Rovers, I assume they're also available for the D4, D5 and L405. They weren't cheap on the L322.

Would probably be possible to motorise the Defender folding steps. Simple enough to have an up down switch to do all at the same time. But would be more difficult to make them work with the doors or remote without the benefit of a can bus.
Post #725129 23rd Aug 2018 10:17pm
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custom90



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Interesting regarding the RR's. I thought I'd float discussing this topic in here as I thought it maybe of interest as I've seen literally nothing in this respect on the market for the Defender.

Some people have steps because they like them, others only because they need them.
The motorised type is much a compromise between the two, but the static steps are a little more protection to the side, but very little though.
I suppose HD sills would make up that difference and possibly make HD jackable sills maybe easier to use.

Motorisation of the steps using door switches would be fairly simple.
Just a Relay with earth trigger on each door switch combined with the factory system.
There would be no drawbacks on using them as a trigger method in this way and all current load would be dedicated via a Relay.
Unlock / locking though would not be quite so easy as you say.

Doors would probably be best method though anyway I would have thought for many reasons.

If they are made for Jeeps there is no reason at all they shouldn't be fine for a Defender to be designed and fitted to.
Preferably using materials and components that would permanently last.
If so, then even if pricey I reckon they would sell so long as your not talking £1200 + otherwise it wouldn't be popular mainstream. No Guts, No Glory.
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Post #725134 23rd Aug 2018 10:57pm
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
I was looking at these about six months ago as some take off ones from a RR came up cheap on eBay but I couldn’t figure out how I would mount them, and they came with no electrics so I gave up. Ray
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Post #725140 23rd Aug 2018 11:43pm
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bankz5152



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RR ones will not fit in any useful way. I have a full semi broken set that came off my dads RR the motor kit is huge and you would needd to make up a pretty extensive bracket.

If i remember monday ill get some pics Instagram @defender_ventures
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Post #725154 24th Aug 2018 6:28am
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smb



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Stedall.co.uk sell something like it although aesthetically might not suit the defender.

https://stedall.co.uk/product-category/general/side-action-steps/
Post #725171 24th Aug 2018 8:04am
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Scotland 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Auto Keswick Green
Seen similar on motor homes and RV's. I have looked around for these as have a need for them. Even sketched out some designs myself.
I have yet to find anything that would fit on a Defender in a meaningful way. 1995 Defender 110 CSW
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Post #725177 24th Aug 2018 9:12am
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Mr Baldylocks



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I think D4x4 have done one for a customer, looked brilliant 😎 Life is one big adventure, that's why we have the vehicle for the journey.
Post #725226 24th Aug 2018 1:44pm
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Inigo



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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
I bought a Thule folding step to see if I could make it work (wife is short, kids will grow) so only needed passenger side. I bought the manual version and initial inspection shows an electrical connection, I assume to link to a warning light if not folded. I'll have to see what sort of brackets I can cobble together to fit at the same time as tree sliders.
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diesel_jim



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bankz5152 wrote:

Im supprised no one like the vomit inducing Kahn have come up with yet. Theres plenty of space for some under a 110 though the out riggers could be an issue!



Unfortunately she already has..... https://youtu.be/w2IBMiZKhh0?t=2214
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Grenadier



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France 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey
Just last week I saw the current RR with a pair. Lowered as soon as his passenger opened their door. The granite pavement is far higher than UK and this set on top of it, indeed the whole car lowered its suspension as well. Couldn't tell if it was 'jammed' on the granite or if it 'senses' obstructions and doesn't open fully? Looked very smart. When the chap and his wife walked away and he bleeped his bleeper, steps retracted but RR stayed at low level. I think they'd work for anyone not planning major 4x4ing or where there might be lots of mud to clog the mechanism. Personally I like standard steps, especially on a 110, as they make the chassis height look a little more 'normal'. Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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