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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720   
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Lets face it what ever they come out with wont impress us Defender enthusiasts. Because no modern car can be built to be like an original Defender, if the manufacturer actually wants to be able to sell the thing as a road vehicle anywhere in the developed world.
Even the billionaire who wants to make his own, admitted "it will have to look different to an original Defender". It seems obvious Land Rover are going to pitch the new one against the Jeep Wrangler - there's a lot more profit in it than the original. It's likely the Autocar artists impressions can be taken with a pinch of salt, I expect like the Wrangler the new Defender will take a couple of styling cues from the original, round headlamps and a prominent grille for example. We may even see some sort of bonnet pressing that looks like a traditional tapered bonnet, but isn't. In terms of being pitched as a 'hardcore off roader' to be honest most of the current Land Rover products with the exception of the Evoque/D. Sport, can wipe the floor with an original Defender off road on a like for like basis, the only advantage the Defender has is the greater availability of more aggressive tyres. Keeping the 16" wheels on the new Defender should be relatively easy. |
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8th Aug 2018 11:07pm |
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| oneten110 Member Since: 02 Jul 2011 Location: Wish I was still in France Posts: 741
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Read an article, about ooh 1,000 years ago. That the Defender replacement was going to have the same size wheel/tyre and PCD as the Toyota hilux thingy, thus broadening the range of available wheels/tyres in remote areas.
And here is Land Rover busy telling everybody this is what we were capable of, once. |
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9th Aug 2018 9:13am |
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| markalpha Member Since: 23 Apr 2008 Location: Downham Market Posts: 690  
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JLR target market. Premium Durability. They’ll just need to sell half the village to buy a new one.
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9th Aug 2018 9:40am |
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| LandymanStefan Member Since: 30 Aug 2017 Location: Surrey Posts: 881 
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To be fair most of the modern retro cars of the old classics like the mini, Fiat 500, beetle, wrangler, g class have all kept some heritage in their design. I'd be very surprised if Land Rover keep nothing like the original especially after a this heritage pr they're putting out
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9th Aug 2018 9:41am |
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| HK07 Member Since: 15 Dec 2016 Location: Hampshire Posts: 746 
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/\ Totally agree with that. I think we have a pleasant surprise ahead of us.
Yes it will be complex, and no it won't be cheap, but I think it will be good. It's just such a shame they didn't keep the old one going in some way shape or form. But as someone said earlier, most of us on here are not their target market. They have made a massive success of the company, it's just business. 2007 90 Puma - Love it - Best car I have ever owned. 1989 Ninety 200tdi - Love it - Second best car I have ever owned. 1951 80" Series 1 - Love it - Third best car I have ever owned. |
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9th Aug 2018 11:30am |
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| cozz Member Since: 15 May 2013 Location: nottingham Posts: 537 |
makes me want to put a deposit on a new jimny, cos it looks great, a good design change connected with its own heritage - which I can't see in the new defender at all
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9th Aug 2018 8:04pm |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283
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Over 70 years, Rover, Land Rover and JLR haven't launched too many lemons.
I don't expect them to start now. However, technical complexity and price will probably keep my type of owner away. I'm not sure they'll care. In the meantime there is no point in fretting. I won't comment on the new Defender until I actually see it in the metal - from JLR. |
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9th Aug 2018 8:19pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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How do you know? Have you seen the new Defender? All we see in this article is Autocar's artist impression, based on little more than speculation from what they've gleaned from a heavily camouflaged test mule. Test mules often have plastic mouldings stuck on them to disguise their shape as well as having the dazzle pattern camo. |
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9th Aug 2018 8:31pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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Exactly, just like they don't care that you or I aren't interested in buying an Evoque, because there are literally hundreds of thousands of other people who are interested in buying one. |
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9th Aug 2018 8:34pm |
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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1017 
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Personally I think the article was to sell more copies of autocar then actually providing real facts, why would LR give insights to a launch 2 years away? Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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9th Aug 2018 9:11pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3287
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Yep. Probably a slow news week.
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9th Aug 2018 9:27pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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Chances are they have a contact who works there and they've acquired a few snippets of inside information rather than Land Rover giving insights officially. The expected price is something that Land Rover might give out, but that's probably about all. Naturally their contact is risking their job and possibly even legal action by giving away too much, so the snippets they get are generally very insignificant bits of info, because their source can't say anything that would be easily traced back to them. |
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9th Aug 2018 11:28pm |
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| Vintagepaul Member Since: 20 Jan 2015 Location: Rye, East Sussex Posts: 482 
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Manufacturers will often 'leak' information on forthcoming models to raise interest and keep the brand/model in the public eye. Also, if this articles information has come from JLR is it not a clever way of telling us that we won't see the new Defender now until 2020, not 2018/19 as previously implied? 2015 Defender 90XS HT |
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10th Aug 2018 5:45am |
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| oneten110 Member Since: 02 Jul 2011 Location: Wish I was still in France Posts: 741
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It is true, the enthusiast market is a vanishingly small proportion of the sales for new vehicles. |
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10th Aug 2018 6:49am |
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