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gazonk



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Current best security based bonnet hinges
Anyone have a view as to the best security based hinges out there for the puma hood?

A google shows about 4-5 different brands all around 80-90 quid, and was wondering if anyone knows the pros and cons and can share their experience.
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ibexman



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I got gmb ones
Post #714269 24th Jun 2018 8:58pm
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gazonk



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Thx, were they easy to fit ibexman?
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smb



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GMB ones also, plus brackets to fit a Hi-Lift. Excellent quality, very easy to fit with double nuts underneath on the bolts. Very secure to the stage if someone tried to take the Bonnet one it would be extremely difficult, and two they would do so much damage it wouldn’t be in their interest to take it!!
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gazonk



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Thanks SMB. I guess I will get the GMB ones!
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zsd-puma



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Any of them that stop the bonnet from just being lifted off will be as secure as the next.

I have the Gore ones, but all 'security' hinges work on the principle that a thief will have to spend time undoing the 6 nuts or screws from the under side of the bonnet, rather than two people simply lifting the hinges from the brackets. But all of them can be removed by opening the bonnet and undoing the fixings, it's just that it takes 10 min rather than 2 seconds. Even then there is another method for lifting even security hinges off, that involves expensive damage to the bulkhead - it's easy enough to guess how but I may as well make any potential thieves reading this work for it.

It's probably as much if not more important to ensure the bonnet latch and cable are more difficult to access from outside the vehicle.

If they've got time on their side though, they can just pop the bonnet from inside once they've nicked the doors and undo the fixings.
Post #714403 25th Jun 2018 9:09pm
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mk1collector



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Design and development ones are the closest looking to original hinges and work for me. Ray
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http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html
Post #714407 25th Jun 2018 9:20pm
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dgardel



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I have this one, no visible screw from the outside....

http://optimillraceproducts.com/product_in...ucts_id=38


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leeds



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Questions such as best is always difficult to answer.

The standard bonnet can be stolen within one minute assuming no concerns over car alarm going off.

The bonnet hinges supplied by 4x4overlander come with nyloc nuts and some shear nuts. Yes they can be overcome with the use of an angle grinder but that is a bit noisy and time delaying.

Security devices are not thief proof they are delaying tactics which hopefully make te scumbags move along to easier pickings.


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Clive



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I've kept the original hinges on mine but replaced the screws with Pin Torx type security screws with nyloc nuts underneath, as an added measure though I've also added gas struts which need to be unscrewed to remove them to get the bonnet off, always assuming the alarm has been bypassed.
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zsd-puma



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can't you just pop the ball joints apart on the gas struts? Most you lever the spring clips on the ends off and the ball joint just pulls apart, or do you have something different?

Security screws on standard hinges do nothing at all because the bonnet complete with hinges just lifts off once you get it to 90 degrees. Wink

A lump of security chain with a padlock to stop the bonnet being lifted is the best means of preventing theft I've seen so far, but awkward for routine maintenance.
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Clive



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The struts I used came off a Suzuki (Swift IIRC) and have fixed eyes with bolted-through plastic bushes so they need to be unscrewed to lift the bonnet off.

To be honest, I fitted them more as a convenience than a security measure as I already had them and they just happened to be the right size.

Like any other other security measures, it's just a question of buying a little extra time by slowing potential thieves down.
Post #714454 26th Jun 2018 7:35am
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macfrank



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„Design and development ones are the closest looking to original hinges and work for me. “

Me too. Just received a pair, not fitted yet but look and feel great!

http://www.designdevelopmenteng.co.uk/stor...-p97296947
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dgardel



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leeds wrote:
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Security devices are not thief proof they are delaying tactics which hopefully make te scumbags move along to easier pickings.



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zsd-puma



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Clive wrote:
The struts I used came off a Suzuki (Swift IIRC) and have fixed eyes with bolted-through plastic bushes so they need to be unscrewed to lift the bonnet off.

To be honest, I fitted them more as a convenience than a security measure as I already had them and they just happened to be the right size.

Like any other other security measures, it's just a question of buying a little extra time by slowing potential thieves down.


Sounds good. One other benefit of the 'security' hinges is the bushes locate the hinge on the bulkhead with little or no slop. It might be worth thinking about some, because I would guess when you open or close your bonnet you feel/hear the slack in the bonnet hinges being taken up as you act against the struts. Just a thought.
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