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m3vert



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Scotland 2011 Defender 110 2.5 TD PU Stornoway Grey
Running a spare of a different size from the rest??
Ok I know my spare should ideally be the same size as the tyre it is replacing, however for some stupid reason my spare that I got from the garage I bought it from is totally different! Long story short I am stuck with it. I will replace it with the same in due course but for now, if I had to use the spare in an emergency is it likely to cause any issues to the drive train and or handling??
I am running 275 75 16 BF Goodrich and the spare is a crappy General Grabber 225 75 16. So an overall size difference of 37mm I think?
Anyone advise if it will be ok or should I go out and get the correct tyre ASAP??
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First off check both sizes as I don't think 275/75R16 is a common size, BFG or otherwise Smile

Plugging your sizes into the "comparison" tab here: https://tiresize.com/calculator/

Gives a circumference difference of 10%, which really is too much. I'd run it to get me off the hard shoulder but not for any considerable distance.

Check the size of the big tyre and do the calc Thumbs Up  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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sizes look a bit out on larger tyre. 285.75?

your 275.75R16 is 818.9mm (32.2")

high your 225.75R16 is 743.5mm high. (29.2") Cheers

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m3vert



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Cheers Martin, I am away from the car for another week or so, so cannot check. My Wife checked and assured me that was the size on though? I did think it was a bit much, we are doing a good few miles on an upcoming holiday and am thinking I should probably bite the bullet and get another steel the same as the existing wheels and a tyre the same Sad

My next issue is I don't know where the modular steels came from!! Are they all the same offset wise? Nah I doubt it Big Cry

Thanks for your help Thumbs Up
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Due to a recent puncture on the Zafira while in France, I realised the spare was a 16 while the ones on the car were all 17's. Did the job of getting me to a repair centre but was concerned.

I do remember a past post discussing this and the point that we all kept coming back to was that a lot of cars ship with a space saving spare which is of a smaller diameter and width and this seems fine all be it with the caveat of driving under 50ish and for a limited mileage.
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16/17 refer to the wheel size (diameter in inches) not the tyre. Chances are they are fitted with different profile (sidewalk height) tyres and so are overall the same diameter when shod with tyres.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Could well be Martin, its back under the car and hopefully will stay there until I return home.


The point still remains, space savers are very different in all dimensions to the standard wheel.


The previous post came about when the OP had some expensive/ wide wheels and wanted to save a bit with a cheaper/ smaller on the back with a cover if I recall.
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A constant 4wd is very different to an ordinary car. The centre differential won't tolerate large discrepancies in wheel / tyre diameter . Darren

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Regardless of the size written on the tyre and the numbers the online calculator give, they are only 'Design nominal' dimensions whereas the actual tyre is likely to be different.
Best best is to physically measure the unladen diameter of both to determine the real difference.
Ideally your aiming for a similar OD and in an emergency situation wheel offset or tyre tread width won't matter. Instagram: L90andy

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Thanks folks, appreciate all the feedback. My Wife has just sent me a photo of the tyre and she is clearly dsylexic! The ones on the motor are 285-75-16 indeed and not 275! So I guess this makes the issue even more of a problem.
Since i do not know what steel wheels are fitted (black modulars but no idea who makes them or style) I think I will stick with the steel wheel that I have as a spare, even though it will no doubt be slightly different offset and try and pick up another 285-75-16 before we set off on our holiday down south!
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Sorry to add to your woes but if your spare is a standard LR steel wheel then it won't be anywhere near wide enough for a 285 tyre. I'm not sure what might be a suitable diameter alternative, off hand. Darren

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FWIW, you shouldn't be able to pass an MOT with different sized wheels on the same axle.

https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/doc...class3457/

It's been like that for a while but I do know one car that's been through an MOT with a 13" wheel and three 14" wheels. The tyre profile made the overall rolling diameter pretty similar.
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m3vert



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Scotland 2011 Defender 110 2.5 TD PU Stornoway Grey
Hi Landrover Anorak thanks, yeah I had thought that might be the case. I am trying to find the same style modular steel as I have fitted, but no joy so far. I assume the wheel will have a stamp in it somewhere telling me the offset and size???
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Wales 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Another thing to be aware of, different rolling circumference will cause the ABS and traction control lights to illuminate (if fitted) as the control unit will sense wheels rotating at different rpm.

Lights should go out when matching tyres are refitted
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