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DefenderOfTheEarth



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Zagato - mine's from Harwoods too but the Croydon branch. Being looked at by Riders Land Rover.

Any other issues worth looking at?

I bet the service guys will love you!!! Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.
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Climbing the management ladder in my previous career and proper job I tried the "Mr popular" technique of people management and it works to a point with a small team but when you get up to 80 staff ultimately a slice of fear was the way to manage and get the best out of them Twisted Evil

No I don't want them to love me.... I expect them to look after the vehicle professionally and do the job right not send me valentines cards!

Very few places around here do a proper job Rolling Eyes Most of the garages around here have a poor reputation but there seems to be quite a lot of business, probably as so many new people come into this growing area....most being high earners!

My father has dealt with Riders a few times to buy new vehicles and highly recommends them. He takes his motors to an independent for servicing though. Can't believe the labour rates down their £25 + an hour and he gets his hair cut for £3 Shocked Lowest up here is about £50 + and £13 for a chop! What an old woman I'm turning into Rolling Eyes £13 for a blue rinse - sucking of teeth!
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Zagato - moved from Surrey when I was 14 - it certainly is VERY pricey there now.

I get the wife to "shear" me every few weeks - so my £15 clippers have been great VFM Very Happy Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.
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Sounds like an amicable arrangement you must enjoy returning the favour Whistle
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Sounds like an amicable arrangement you must enjoy returning the favour Whistle

Laughing Laughing Laughing Thumbs Up Snigger Defender 110XS SW gone... now VW California 180 4 Motion.
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Zagato wrote:
Climbing the management ladder in my previous career and proper job I tried the "Mr popular" technique of people management and it works to a point with a small team but when you get up to 80 staff ultimately a slice of fear was the way to manage and get the best out of them Twisted Evil

No I don't want them to love me.... I expect them to look after the vehicle professionally and do the job right not send me valentines cards!


And insisting you watch them work on your vehicle (ie I don't trust you) is a way to get good service from a garage?
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As with many dealerships they have one wall as one big window so customers can feel at ease I suppose more with whats going on with their pride and joy. A Honda dealership I used once had the customer seating area directly facing the window! I suppose the thinking is a bit like open restaurants where you can see the food being prepared. It gives reassurance the job is being done properly and your sprockets aren't just bunged in a micro-wave Confused

I may not be allowed in on Health & Safety grounds but I always hang about and talk with the guys as it's obviously a good idea to get to know them but you learn so much at the same time - not all good unfortunately which is why I stick around Sad
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Insisting you watch them work on the vehicle is a little different to watching through a window I think you ll agree. I've never seen a landrover dealer with a large window you can see the workshop through and sit down whilst youre doing it.
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Zagato wrote:
Mine goes in this Friday for the same AND I shall watch them while they do it Yawn


Chill Mike, nobodies insisting on anything! As said I doubt you can hang around the workshop in a dealership due to H&S but you can watch the guys working on your motor through the window provided Thumbs Up !

When I picked up the vehicle, the staff I would be dealing with were called out and introduced to me which I thought was very good practice. They know me and my vehicle and have seen it since I have done the work on it!!! They know it's a cherished private one not a business farm hack! They said quite a few of the recent customers that have bought new are cherished ones that owners are going to keep long term - nice to know it's not only me and there is still such a lot of enthusiasm for the Defender.

Came across a black 90 07 model in car park last weekend that was mint - I spoke to the owner and yes it is going to be his pride and joy for a very long time. In complete contrast I saw 4 working Puma's near a harbour that were in a hell of a state, mud, rust etc but they'll go on for years like that. I know the owner of the business and he wouldn't have anything else - don't think a Toyota would last long in salty climes! Wink
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Zagato... you are on the bottom of a steep learning curve. Even after asking every question ever asked about Defenders it will still give you hassle that all the underseal in the world won't do a bit of help with.
As for the right to watch mechanics work on your car i think that is only for MOT tests. I wouldn't fancy customers watching or in other words not trusting me and i bet super longevity is not an advantage to your dealer as they like replacing rusty and worked hard parts and my dealer gives everyone the same level of courtesty and Anal owners are in the a/hole folder? 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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It sounds as though you are a mechanic from your post Red Dot. It's good to hear you regard yourself as good and contientious at what you do though! I wish there were more with the same ethos down in this neck of the woods Neutral

No that's not an invitation your OK up there Wink Laughing


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Coconut to Zag..... Thumbs Up 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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I thang yoo! Wink
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Zagato wrote:
It sounds as though you are a mechanic from your post Red Dot. It's good to hear you regard yourself as good and contientious at what you do though! I wish there were more with the same ethos down in this neck of the woods Neutral



How do you know, you've only had your Defender for a few short weeks. Steve.
Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades.
Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW.

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http://forums.lr4x4.com

I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic.
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Confused Eh!
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