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LandymanStefan

Member Since: 30 Aug 2017
Location: Surrey
Posts: 881

Premium durability = g wagon rival and prices?

6th May 2018 6:41pm

Muddybigdog

Member Since: 11 Apr 2014
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 1029

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver

Premium Durability = are the owners, having to be minted and durable because of all the issues and first names terms with the dealers Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold
D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold)
Freelander 2 HSE - Sold
Freelander 1 - Sold
Disco 2 - Sold

6th May 2018 8:58pm

Slideywindows

Member Since: 09 Sep 2016
Location: North Essex
Posts: 1294

My old Ninety has "Bog-standard durability"

Wouldn't that be a better selling point?

6th May 2018 9:08pm

Maxxed_Ross

Member Since: 06 Jun 2012
Location: Bathgate / North Sea
Posts: 340

The big problem I had with the last of the Defenders was the price bracket they were in

When you pay less you expect less - so when Land Rover started ramping up the prices they were aiming for owners of cars that don't leak, fall apart or arrive rusty from brand new.

I had a friend who sold a BMW M5 for a Silver Edition 110 a few years back. He was horrified that it leaked from every door seal the first rained and that I told him this was quite normal

Every bolt on the tow bar was rusty, the paint finish was terrible on the bottoms of the doors and it was back at the dealers quite a few times with various niggly issues.

When you pay £40k for a fully loaded Defender you don't expect to find a puddle on the floor after washing it either... so needless to say he handed it back to them fairly quickly and bought an Audi for around the same money. 2013 Discovery 4 HSE Lux | 2001 Defender 90 TD5 | 2007 Prodrive RB320

6th May 2018 9:51pm

DSC-off

Member Since: 16 Oct 2014
Location: North East
Posts: 1444

2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green

"Bog standard durability.
Wouldn't that be a better selling point?"

Exactly that.
No one believes the marketing BS.
Premium = expensive.
Durability was always questionable. Unlikely to change.

6th May 2018 10:01pm

milesr3

Member Since: 12 Feb 2013
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 873

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green

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28th Jun 2018 4:14pm

SDV8

Member Since: 09 Jan 2015
Location: UK
Posts: 103

2006 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver

I have heard on the grapevine that starting price will be around £40k. 2016 Defender Adventure 110
2015 Defender Autobiography 90
2016 Defender V8 Classic Works 90
2020 Defender 110 P400 X

29th Jun 2018 9:11pm

Tdi4

Member Since: 24 Oct 2014
Location: Houten
Posts: 513

2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey

Doesn’t this Just mean: 50% less water ingress at double the price

a defender from 1984 pretending to be a puma with a touch of Range Rover

30th Jun 2018 6:12am

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