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ParabolicSwivel



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Tyre squeal on roundabouts
My tyres (7.5R16 Michelin Latitude Cross) are squealing on right-hand bends. Maybe left-hand bends too but just haven’t noticed it. Tyres are getting near the wear limit. It seems to be worse after a motorway journey (presumably nice warm tyres) and only noticeable on relatively tight turns, and more speed = more noise.

Is this normal?

As i’m about to change the tyres, should I get the tracking checked too?
Post #696462 27th Mar 2018 2:05pm
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Swine&Small



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I would always get the tracking checked when changing tyres or on spotting uneven wear. Not expensive compared with the cost of prematurely worn tyres. Thumbs Up 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue
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Post #696463 27th Mar 2018 2:11pm
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ParabolicSwivel



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Yep, good point, might do it anyway. The tyres have worn very evenly though and have lasted nearly 25k miles, which seems fairly good?
Post #696467 27th Mar 2018 2:30pm
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ParabolicSwivel



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I should say that it’s only the fronts that are getting low. rears have plenty of life left.
Post #696468 27th Mar 2018 2:32pm
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
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Post #696496 27th Mar 2018 4:03pm
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blackwolf



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So is excessive speed!
Post #696530 27th Mar 2018 5:24pm
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Slow down. Laughing

25k seems pretty poor for wear if you ask me. Confused $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #696533 27th Mar 2018 5:33pm
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How times change. I used to frequent performance car forums and the talk of only 8 or 10k miles on a set of tyres, and was that a problem etc etc. 25k on a set of tyres is imho fine, the mind boggles how anyone drives to get 45-50k on one set!

Edit- regarding your original point, have you confirmed your diffs are working correctly? I.e the centre diff is not locked and there are no issues with the front or rear differential? It could be driveline wind-up, made worse by the worn tyres. This shouldn’t be an issue if you don’t have any driveline issues; the different rotational speeds due to rolling diameter differences would be taken out by the differentials. You’d notice it more on corners due to the different path the wheels take around the curve.

Just a thought, in case the problem is not resolved by new tyres 2014 Keswick Utility 2.2
Post #696548 27th Mar 2018 6:36pm
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"How times change. I used to frequent performance car forums and the talk of only 8 or 10k miles on a set of tyres, and was that a problem etc etc. 25k on a set of tyres is imho fine, the mind boggles how anyone drives to get 45-50k on one set! "

Yes, but the Defender isn't a performance car. And driven in a mechanically sympathetic way with a quality tyre brand you'd be surprised how many miles you can achieve.
My last set did 30k with half life still left, I only had to change due lack of miles vs age and mainly due to a tyre cut and needed to swap due to this.
As I wanted to change size I changed all of them because I had to. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #696580 27th Mar 2018 8:27pm
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My general grabber at2 tyres have run Just over 60k Miles. And they are on the winter limit. So at least 40 k to the summer limit a defender from 1984 pretending to be a puma with a touch of Range Rover
Post #696590 27th Mar 2018 8:46pm
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I've had 100,000 miles out of a set of (original pattern) BFG KM Mud T/As on my Disco2. They were still fully legal and good for the road at that but we're a bit treadless for mud (I left them longer than I normally would have done to see if it was possible).

I'd be seriously disappointed to get fewer than 50k miles from my KM2s and I would expect them to have enough tread to be fully usable at that.
Post #696610 27th Mar 2018 9:26pm
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
The original factory Grabber TR's on mine had done 80'000 miles before I replaced them. Even then they were still road legal, although basically worn out for off road use. 4x4 tyres generally have 10mm tread from new, compared to 8mm for most car tyres.

It's a Defender, if you're getting tyre squeal it's because the car is drifting. That could be down to poor tyres, or it could be down to excessive speed.
Post #696629 27th Mar 2018 11:54pm
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Mike c



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England 2004 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green
The tr's on mine squealed on roundabouts / bends and it wasn't down to excessive speed. The steering was also very unsettled, turned out to be down to tracking that was completely out. Once done no more tyre squeal and a much nicer defender to drive!

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Post #696644 28th Mar 2018 6:35am
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ParabolicSwivel



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It definitely isn’t down to excessive speed (I normally drive excessively slowly if you ask my wife!), and the pressures are fine so I’ll get the tracking done with the new tyres. Hopefully that’ll be it. Smile

Interesting to hear how long tyres sometimes last - I’m quite surprised at that! Will keep an eye on that.
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