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M94PUMA

Member Since: 16 Dec 2016
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 126

Td5 into a 2.4 Puma? Anyone heard of this done?

Hi chaps,
Getting a bit bored of my 2.4tdci and think it’s getting near the end of its life, has anyone done or heard of a td5 engine & gearbox swap?
I understand engine and box mounts will have to be moved.
Rad/ intercooler the same,
Accelerator is the same
Fuel tank just needs the td5 pump fitted,
Td5 defender ecu need programming to the 10AS module,
And would have to use defender dash gauges/ wiring.
Anything else difficult I have overlooked?

Do not have the money for fancy Cummins or 3.2 tdci swaps.
Was thinking either td5 or OM606?
Thought td5 would be a little more easy to do.

Thanks

19th Mar 2018 2:21pm

zsd-puma

Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 2720

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

It might be easier to just sell it and buy a tidy TD5, you're pretty much going to have to buy most of a TD5 anyway. Tidy TD5's seem to be about the same money as a scruffy Puma. (comparing like for like)

Cummins engines from a scrap Daf truck aren't that expensive.

Prop shafts will also be different lengths I think.

19th Mar 2018 2:27pm

diesel_jim

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: hiding
Posts: 6092

If you can get the dash electrics to work (someone on the D90 forum was designing a CANbus unit to work the puma dash with analogue inputs) then I'd go for the OM606a with a Dieselmeken FiP...

Only hardship will be mating it to the gearbox... although the SLK 6 speed (other models also fit, as long as the starter motor mount is in the same position) fits the '606 and works well, so you then need to mate the gearbox to the LT230.

606 is a lovely engine. Revs well and so smooth

19th Mar 2018 4:08pm

NinetyTD4

Member Since: 22 Apr 2011
Location: North
Posts: 397

The type certificate issued will prevent a downgrade of an EU CoC 2.4 PUMA to a TD5. You may go national single permit and that may well render the car totally unsellable. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.

31st Mar 2018 1:22pm

ibexman

Member Since: 13 Dec 2008
Location: Essex
Posts: 2945

zsd-puma wrote:
It might be easier to just sell it and buy a tidy TD5, you're pretty much going to have to buy most of a TD5 anyway. Tidy TD5's seem to be about the same money as a scruffy Puma. (comparing like for like)

Cummins engines from a scrap Daf truck aren't that expensive.

Prop shafts will also be different lengths I think.

Some TD5s are worth MORE than pumas

31st Mar 2018 4:04pm

diesel_jim

Member Since: 13 Oct 2008
Location: hiding
Posts: 6092

NinetyTD4 wrote:
The type certificate issued will prevent a downgrade of an EU CoC 2.4 PUMA to a TD5. You may go national single permit and that may well render the car totally unsellable.

Or just not tell anyone about it, and enjoy driving with the modified engine.

1st Apr 2018 9:44am

Julie

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: Nantes
Posts: 482

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green

Take the TD5, man, and enjoy the fresh air intake

A late TD5 is as good as an early Puma

8th Apr 2018 10:03pm

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