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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17450   
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My preference would be BFG M/Ts - an excellent tyre with good road manners which should manage 75k plus miles. I wouldn't bother with A/Ts myself, they are not much better on road and very poor in mud.
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1st May 2011 5:56pm |
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| Odin Member Since: 29 Apr 2011 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 237  
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Thanks. I'd been told the M/Ts were poor whilst on wet roads due to the reduced surface area in contact with the tarmac? Any experience of this?
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1st May 2011 6:48pm |
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| Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507  
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And my choice would be A/T's.
M/T's are very over-rated unless you seriously doing regular muddy stuff. I've never run anything but A/T on all my Landies and never had any issues with Traction ... unlike a few friends with M/T's You pay yer money and take yer chance lol .. your choice. Cooper ST are my fave [hard to get now] Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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1st May 2011 7:23pm |
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| bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189 
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i did this debate as well for both my 90's and after much research and thought i bought BFG ATs. Never let me down in the 300 or the Puma, excellent in snow as well
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1st May 2011 7:26pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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I have been told that BFG are pulling out of European market BUT have not verified that info. Maybe AJS4x4 could? help verify this point?
BFG M/Ts are a good all round tyre, however any M/T has an increased stopping distance in the wet. Yes they are a long lived tyre. We run both our 110's on BFG M/T whereas our D2 is on BFG A/T. HTH Brendan |
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1st May 2011 8:51pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17450
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It is really a matter of personal preference and you will never get a simple answer to this question!
My opinion as stated above is based on my experiences over the last twelve or so years with disco2 and defender on BFG muds and a Navara on BFG A/T, plus defender on KL71. The A/T is a good tyre but is imho unspectacular, the mud is spectacular. I have done 200k miles on muds in the disco, driven hard, there is still life in the second set, and they have never ever given me a moments concern in the wet. However, I am always mindful that I am driving a two ton + 4wd and drive appropriately. None of the tyres you mention are bad, and in the end you will have to make your choice and build up your own experience. I hope you enjoy the process! |
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1st May 2011 9:27pm |
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| Odin Member Since: 29 Apr 2011 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 237
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Thanks for the comments. Notable that no-one has suggested sticking with the Generals - are they that poor in comparison?
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1st May 2011 9:45pm |
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| bm52 Member Since: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Kent Posts: 2189
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Yes in my opinion and much noisier than the BFG ATs. how noisy are the new BFG MTs? BM52 |
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1st May 2011 10:00pm |
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| Jimbob Member Since: 17 Mar 2011 Location: Gower Posts: 68  
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I had generals on my d2 and they were very good, but simply dont last as long as bfgs, Id done 10,000 when I had it, the previous owner hadnt long fitted them and I reckon they would have lasted another 5-10,000 miles? Compared to bfgs which I've heard of up to 80-90,000 miles easily! HTH
 2009 Defender County Hard Top (gone 😞)
1990 200tdi defender off roader 2015 Defender XS Hard Top (awaiting delivery 😄) |
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1st May 2011 11:16pm |
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| Dave-H Member Since: 08 Feb 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 1507
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As said .... yes
The TR is not a great 'performer' [hence everyone bins them for replacement brands] The AT2 is a great tyre, but tread wear may be an issue. Two mates using them, one set lasted 35k, the other set are down to 5mm at 23k. Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant. |
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2nd May 2011 11:22am |
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| Fifth Horseman Member Since: 08 Mar 2011 Location: Lanarkshire Posts: 323 
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The Grabless TR doesn't seem a good tyre for sticky mud - the tread clogs too quickly. As stated the AT2 is good but wears quickly, it seems that General will be replacing it with an new tyre - the AT http://www.tyrepress.com/News/1/20/20509.html
Had BFG on my old V8 110 and with no problems and very good milage. Conti Cross Contact AT may be an alternative but not much user feed back on this one yet. |
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2nd May 2011 2:45pm |
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| Odin Member Since: 29 Apr 2011 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 237
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Thanks for all of the helpful comments. I'm going to run the Generals for the summer then invest in some BFG All Terrains in Autumn. The consequences of losing it on a corner in the rain are worse than those of being stuck in mud!
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2nd May 2011 7:49pm |
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| Green Machine Member Since: 19 Nov 2010 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1226 
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Good choice - I'm planning on doing the same thing |
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2nd May 2011 7:52pm |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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BFG KM2s for the summer and GG AT2's for the winter as they are proper winter rated
That's my choice all in 285 75 16 s on Mach fives |
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2nd May 2011 8:00pm |
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