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GrouseII



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Coniston Green
Sluggish wipers - Puma
Hi.

First off, I have searched this forum... honest!

After my son handed back my Landy I noticed the front windscreen wipers are really sluggish on my 2008 Puma. On all speeds and intermittent. Strangely they do speed up a bit the longer they're left on the faster they get but the wiper motors sound a bit more noisy.

I have sprayed the outside spindle with WD40 but no improvement. I also tried pulling that big red fuse and re seating it but again no change.

Can anyone give me a diagnostic progression of the least involved first because the thought of taking the dash off looks nasty!

Thanks

Grouse
Post #689141 26th Feb 2018 9:29pm
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mk1collector



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Most likely one of the wheel boxes seizing up. Did you pull the rubber cover off the spindle before spraying with wd? Try spraying it a few times over the next few days. Ray
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Post #689164 26th Feb 2018 10:35pm
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BenB8man



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Yeah as above. Best try that first, else it's a dash out job! Thumbs Up
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Snorkers



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Hi Grouse.
I had similar symptoms last year along with a reducing sweep of the wiper arm. Particularly the near side (r/h/d). On trying to move the arms by hand, it was obvious that the n/s wiper spindle was seizing. I removed the wiper arm and spindle rubber. Then replaced the spindle nut by a few turns, and locked a set of mole grips onto the nut. With the wipers on slow speed, I sprayed penetrating oil onto the spindle whilst 'manipulating the spindle up/down/left/right. Eventually it started to become more slack in its bushing. The o/s spindle was as new, and without much effort, you could feel a small amount of slack when pushing and pulling the spindle - think about 10-15 thou. With manipulation and oil, the n/s became the same. Be prepared to catch the rust streaked oil on the bonnet, and to take 10 mins or so doing this. This restored the arc of the wiper and the motor is significantly quieter meaning less strain. Think the manipulation of the spindle was instrumental in allowing the penetrating oil into the spindle bush and in washing out the rust. I had feared I was going to have to swap out a wheel box but so far its been fine Very Happy

Hope this helps
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GrouseII



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Gentlemen, you are a fantastic bunch.

Not only have you saved my weekend (not having to take the dash out) but also my bacon as it was heavy snowfall on the way home tonight and I needed my wipers.

I took your advice's and removed the rubber cover 3 times today and sprayed wd40 onto the spindle as directed. It has improved enough to allow me to drive, but I think a few more days treatment will have it making me dizzy with fast wiping!

I'm thinking putting a dob of grease in the rubber cup thing to help prevent future episodes. Any reason not too?

This community never fails to impress Smile

Grouse
Post #689357 27th Feb 2018 6:38pm
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mk1collector



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Thumbs Up the grease sounds a good idea to me. Ray
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Post #689381 27th Feb 2018 7:34pm
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williamthedog



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I've always sprayed acf-50 on the wiper spindles, never had a problem with them then Thumbs Up
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Balvaig



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I've used Vaseline in the past as I do not think it damages the rubber. It seemed to work and prevented water getting in to rust the spindle.
Post #689421 27th Feb 2018 9:23pm
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Tommo



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This was one of the symptoms of the battery and alternator on mine on their way out Shocked
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zsd-puma



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Balvaig wrote:
I've used Vaseline in the past as I do not think it damages the rubber. It seemed to work and prevented water getting in to rust the spindle.


Vaseline is petrol based. It'll knacker rubber. But that depends if the spindle covers are actually rubber, if yours haven't fallen to bits then chances are they're some kind of plastic based material, or at least a very low rubber content. Silicone grease would be safer on rubber.
Post #689649 28th Feb 2018 4:03pm
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Mwd



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Does anyone know the part number of the round rubber seals that cover the point where the spindle passes through the bulkhead. Mine are about to fall apart! Thanks.
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GrouseII



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I'm hoping mine isn't as Tommo's given the amount of brown 'tears' that stream out every application of WD.

This seems like yet another item to add to my maintenance schedule. I guess there's no such thing as just a drive n go Defender!

Great tip re silicone grease, will go that route just in case and keep the Vaseline for the ol'chops Wink

Grouse
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