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spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4728

Wiper speed issue

The very fast speed on the Puma wipers doesn't work. Intermittant and normal speed are fine. Any ideas? 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

3rd Dec 2017 5:45pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4790

If all other speeds work normally then chances are it's the column switch. Do they just stop? Or do they not increase in speed? 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
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3rd Dec 2017 5:48pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4728

When the stalk is moved up from normal speed to very fast, the wipers just stop. Sometimes it is possible to get them to move but they only drag across the windscreen very very slowly. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

3rd Dec 2017 5:53pm

Tommybahama32

Member Since: 11 Sep 2017
Location: cheshire
Posts: 31

1996 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Bronze Green

Hi this happened to me recently on a 300 tdi, took the column switch off and cleaned the contacts now all good again, i presume the switch will be similar, wort a try.

3rd Dec 2017 6:02pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4790

In that case it could be that the second motor winding has failed, only way to know for sure is to test the wiring at the motor end and check voltages

2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton

3rd Dec 2017 6:02pm

Fat Cog

Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Oxfordshire & Devon
Posts: 502

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

Wiper relay unit...check the connections, WD40 etc Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains

3rd Dec 2017 6:02pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4790

Having said that, as the column switch is easiest to remove, you could test that first before getting access to the motor

3rd Dec 2017 6:03pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4790

Wiper relay is another possibility

3rd Dec 2017 6:04pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4790

that list of possibilities should keep you going for a while 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton

3rd Dec 2017 6:27pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4728

Thanks to you all for the replies. All of the above had crossed my mind but I wondered if anyone had had the same issue and had a definitive fix

My 2011 Puma had developed a problem whereby the wipers would barely move. This turned out to be corrosion on one of the spindles under the rubber cover where it enters the bulkhead. I just cleaned it with sandpaper and lashed on the WD40 and it cured it. There is no visible corrosion on the spindles of the 2008 Puma with the fast wiper problem so it must be one of the above. There was a good posting not so long ago about replacing the park switch behind the dash without removing the dash.. I'll order this switch in and check it and the stalk first. Thank you all.

1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

3rd Dec 2017 6:36pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4790

Just so you know, the park switch only does that, parks the wipers when you switch them off. To save the agro I wouldn't change it unless it has failed

3rd Dec 2017 6:39pm

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4728

O.K. I'll leave the park switch be. Where is the relay unit and what needs checking? I've lashed on the WD40 on the outside of the spindles. I'll ad some more over the next day or so. Don't use the very fast speed as a rule and just found out it wasn't working correctly by chance. I just need to make sure it is working for when the vehicle goes to the test centre next year. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

3rd Dec 2017 6:49pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4790

I'm not sure where the relay is on a puma. My guess is under one of the dash flaps. All you can test really is that it is secure. Have you another defender to swap wiper relays with? 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon
1990 Vogue SE
Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200
Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html
Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html
RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html
Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton

3rd Dec 2017 6:55pm

Fat Cog

Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Oxfordshire & Devon
Posts: 502

My wipers on my last Puma went bonkers, going slow, then fast, intermittent all over the place & refusing to park...changed the wiper relay & all was good, it had got wet inside & the spades were corroded. When I removed it the wipers worked perfectly on fast, slow, but wouldn't park suggesting that the relay overrides the normal wiper function.

The bit in question:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMR2341-Land-Ro....l4275.c10

My 300TDi Wolf also had the exact same problem with water in the actual relay housing, no need to change the part as sandpaper & WD40 fixed it. Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains

3rd Dec 2017 7:10pm

Fat Cog

Member Since: 19 Mar 2012
Location: Oxfordshire & Devon
Posts: 502

Have a look at this old thread...

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic2031.html Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains

3rd Dec 2017 7:14pm

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