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Frostyboy



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Remove All radius arms, panhard and A frame
Can I remove all radius arms, panhard and A Frame but leave shocks and springs on and wheels on the ground?

Wanna put new bushes in, garage said it would take a few days as is busy.

The front turrets are removed also.

Thanks
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bankz5152



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Yes but it will have nothing holding the axle in place... itll go all floppy. If you want to do it that way youll have to support the chassis at each corner

Do one at a time, doesnt take long. I changed my rear trailing arm (chassis end) bushes in a feild after they tore through their own mounts.
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blackwolf



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I would support the chassis solidly at both ends, and also chock all wheels in both directions.
Post #657837 17th Oct 2017 11:26am
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Coatesyyy



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^^^ yep, agree with the above chaps Thumbs Up
Post #657853 17th Oct 2017 12:28pm
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jst



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You will need to stop the vehicle moving as above as only shocks holding things in place which would not be ideal in this application!

Are you getting the garage to push out the old bushes and your removing the parts? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
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Post #657864 17th Oct 2017 12:48pm
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Frostyboy



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I took off one of the front radius arms and managed to drill/burn out the rubber and used a Dremel to grind out a valley in the outer sleeve and small screwdriver to split it.

If I have to do one corner at a time might be better to go Poly bush rather than going to the garage each time to get the OEM rubber ones pressed in.
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bankz5152



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Yup thats what I did. Floflex do split ones which are much easier to fit, however the downside is muck can pool at the split eventually potentially corrosion.
Post #657874 17th Oct 2017 2:08pm
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Frostyboy



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I tried phoning around a few local garages and got a quote for 30-40 quid a arm!
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bankz5152



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Just to push in the bushes! Bit rich!
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jst



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I don't have a press, and over the years have tried many different ways, burning, drilling, vices etc etc
My preferred option is to use a parallel.punch to knock inwards the outer metal sleeve all the way around the bush. Then find an impact socket that fits over this to bear on the outer sleeve but also fits inside the hole, then with chocks under it hit the socket down through the arm. Very agricultural, bits can go everywhere but it's a good way to warm up in a cold wksp! Never had any bush fail to come out doing this.

For replacement i use Superpro bushes. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #657891 17th Oct 2017 3:38pm
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Frostyboy



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Yer I was looking at Super Pro trying to justify the cost but came across this, if you have the need and correct model cracking deal!

https://www.advancedfactors.co.uk/kit0043c...6662-p.asp
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MadTom



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Why not buy cheap 10t press and press in genuine bushes. One arm by another - much simpler to remove from car.
When finished, you can sell the press wit a bit lower price to get some money back. With the price offer from a local garage, is should be comparable.
I have very good experience with LR original bushes - they survived much more than 10 years. Polybush are nice, but the cheap ones had "flown" away when the car was offroad and the axles were articulating up to the limits. This was not a problem when onroad. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
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jst



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my vehicles are used regularly off road - driver training and drive round days leading, Superpro have outlasted any other brands of 'poly' i have tried over the last 15years or so also last longer than OEM in trailing arm and front radius arm applications. about the same duration in others. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #657925 17th Oct 2017 6:11pm
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Frostyboy



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What is the ride like with Superpro?

I hear poly are a firmer ride compared to the rubber original ones.
Post #657951 17th Oct 2017 7:05pm
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MadTom



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I have no experience with Superpro, just some cheap polybush - good for onroad, useless for offroad. And I know, polybushes are not the same. But for me the original black rubber is first choice. Cheap black rubber bushes are also mainly useless - they will not survive for long time. "Drobek" = The Small One - Discovery 2, "Blufínek" = The Blue Thing - Defender 130, and for me at least Ford Mondeo Smile
Post #657954 17th Oct 2017 7:09pm
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