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| R1200GS Member Since: 12 Jul 2015 Location: Hampshire Posts: 265   
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Been doing the same myself over the past couple of months and currently my
first choice is Howling Moon stargazer with a Foxwing Eco 2.1 awning on a Flatdog rack, I keep looking at James Baroud hardtop tents though......  |
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17th Aug 2017 11:00am |
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| roliver Member Since: 24 Nov 2016 Location: Cambridge Posts: 60 
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I'm looking at turning my 90 into an overland-capable vehicle too:
Does anyone have any experience with the Tuff-Trek tents and awnings? I can't see how it works, but it looks like their 270 awning integrates into the roof tent somehow? From their website:  Click image to enlarge My vehicle: Click image to enlarge |
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17th Aug 2017 12:31pm |
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| sharkey964 Member Since: 05 Oct 2014 Location: On a muddy track Posts: 574  
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I converted my 90 into an overlander a couple of years ago,after building a 110 specificaly for overland.
There were a couple of times the 110 just felt a bit too big,plus,only being 2 of us,I decided to sell the 110 & convert my 90,which at the time was my challenge truck. I'd had a Maggiolina on the 110,the only down side to which was having to wind it up and down,so,I went for a James Barroud. Definately the best RTT I have ever used. Quick to put up and down.I have used it in all weathers from +38 degrees to -5,the last trip to Corsica we had storm force winds & the tent never budged. 
I have stored the ladder in the roof of the 90. I paired it up with a full size Foxwing,& the combo works a treat. IMO,anything that is a faff to put up you wont use simply because it's too much trouble.The Foxwing id deployed in no more than 5 mins. I fabbed up a big drawer in the floor at the back,but leaving enough room at either side for storace of a folding table at one side,& a 5 compartment bottle rack at the other. On top of the wheel arches I have a full legnth open box on the left housing 2 folding chairs the Foxwing extensions & the gas bottle. 2 burner stove with grill is on the back door. On the right wheel arch I have built a 3 tier storage system housing heavy stuff on the bottom shelf,aux battry,compressor for air lockers & tire inflation,2nd shelf with see through containers for foodstufs,& top shelf for cloths,boots,towels etc. This is fronted with an easy to operate rigid plastic roller shutter. LED lights & electrical socket outlet for the ARB fridge. Marc. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge |
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17th Aug 2017 3:21pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8580
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Barbara and I have travelled widely and normally use a 110 for our longer trips
It is possible to use a 90 as a overland vehicle but there are a few things to remember one of the main thing is weight, keep the vehicle as light as possible and as low as possible. A roof rack with a hardshell rooftent on a 90 is a waste. A hardshell rooftent is typically 2.1 x 1.3m whereas the typical 90 rack is 2.0m x 1.4 m so there is no free space on the rack. Much better on weight and price front to use 2 or 3 roof bars. Even with a folding tent by the time you have allowed for space to put the tent away you will have little spare space left on the rack. For hard shell rooftents on gas struts look at the Autohome, Airtop or Columbus range. For soft shell/folding tents have a good look at the Roof Lodge tents, complete with roof windows and is the only range of rooftents that I know comes with anti condensation mat under the mattress as standard. For extra fuel a wing tank is preferable to jerrycans. We will be displaying at Peterborough show and hopefully will have some new items for overland vehicles (sadly mainly for 110) Brendan |
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17th Aug 2017 9:53pm |
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| Raddy Member Since: 20 Aug 2013 Location: St. Sampsons Posts: 55  
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Cheers Guys, information much appreciated!
Don't think we'll be going too far off grid at first so I'm thinking additional fuel/water etc can probably wait but definitely worth thinking about, seen some cool ideas around. Maybe worth looking at leisure batteries/solar panels as that could be useful. Defiantly keen to try and intergrate the roof tent/awning space with sides if possible as 'Roliver' mentioned above so that's something to look into too I think as space is a premium. |
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18th Aug 2017 9:29am |
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| wyvern Member Since: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2105 
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I was looking a the same yesterday and it seems that this is a light weight version of the fox wing and is a good price with al the sides included. I believe that the roof tent isn’t incorporated into the awing, just fits to the back of it so you access the top tent from the far side. Looking at a pop top roof for our 110 next year after I have saved enough pennies!!  Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126 |
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18th Aug 2017 10:34am |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674 
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It is surprising how much you can fit in a 90 if you pack smart, Me and my mate managed 6 weeks in Kenya in a 90 acting as VM cover 3/4 of our load was tools/spares etc. Depending how much comfort you want to take with you will massively impact what you carry, we each only have a bergen (120l)ish and finished with some kit unused.
When me and Swmbo take the 90 camping however it's a different story as she likes her comforts but again it all fits well if you plan how to pack and use comman sense storing items in order of necessity, we have a 9x9 tent for camping which works for us as we can have access to the rear of the 90 when in the tent. 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html 90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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18th Aug 2017 11:59am |
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| Mo Murphy Member Since: 01 Jun 2008 Location: Letchworth Garden City, Herts Posts: 2227 
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Why do you need a roof tent ?
A ground tent is much better value for money, lighter and won't affect your CoG like a roof tent will. I realise it doesn't look quite so ''Overland'' but lions are unlikely to be a threat at Billing or the South of France. HTH Mo The Land Rover 90 - Many are called, few are chosen. 50 Shades of Pennine Grey |
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18th Aug 2017 1:38pm |
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| Raddy Member Since: 20 Aug 2013 Location: St. Sampsons Posts: 55
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Roof tent is mainly just for ease of use - if we're moving location every day or two or camping out in the sticks it seems like a quicker/easier option than having to pitch and then pack our regular ground tent.
Partly I just like the idea of the stargazer type roof tent and being up high with living space below, plus it would be up away from bears and wolves as we want to head up north to Scandinavia too but I'm sure they'd get to you if they wanted to! |
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18th Aug 2017 4:12pm |
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| Pam W Member Since: 25 Oct 2011 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1169  
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We travelled for 5 months around Australia in 2014 in our 90 with HM roof tent.
We have a blog http://landytravels.com/ which gives loads of info about the build, kit, etc and then the trip of course (latest posts are what we have been working on since, as things changed when we got 2 dogs! But see the early posts from Dec 2011 onwards ) Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Our blog - http://landytravels.com/
Yorkshire Off Road Club - http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net |
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4th Sep 2017 9:57pm |
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| Coatesyyy Member Since: 07 Sep 2017 Location: Knutsford Posts: 423
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Now that's a brilliant set up! |
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29th Sep 2017 3:54pm |
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| sharkey964 Member Since: 05 Oct 2014 Location: On a muddy track Posts: 574
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Thanks Coatsey.
Marc. She looks a bit smarter now,after a coat or 2 of Raptor. http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic57091.html |
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29th Sep 2017 4:37pm |
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| wyvern Member Since: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2105
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Bought this awning at Peterbourgh and its very good, well made and easy to put up, as long as you follow the procedure. Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html
Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126 |
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29th Sep 2017 5:40pm |
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| foxhound Member Since: 02 Mar 2013 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 363 
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if an extended roof rack is an option on a 90, then go for a James Baroud or Maggiolina. I had a Hannibal tent which was fine in hot weather but flaps in the wind and is not suited to Brecon in the winter. I love my maggiolina. 110 Defender 300tdi & Penman trailer with ally exped top and roof tent
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