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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834   
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I did Pilot learning with the BAS remap installed. After around 10.000 miles I got 4 fault codes saying that injector learning on each injector had not been completed. Tick over was lumpy and rough. Checked the FAQ part of BAS website and found that Pilot learning should only be done on the standard map. Reinstalled standard map, did procedure, reinstalled BAS remap. Engine sweet at tickover and no fault codes. Here's a link - https://bellautoservices.co.uk/help-faq/ba...4tdci/vcv/ Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. |
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22nd Aug 2017 12:16pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638  
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thanks mate, but I'm confused now: two people telling me to do the exact opposite
but it's worth a try, will do this after work when then engine has been warmed up on my drive home. It's just a PITA, since my remap is still on the old BAS interface and not the IID, hard to justify the new expense of getting the remap again... -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged 
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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22nd Aug 2017 12:20pm |
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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834
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Understand your confusion - why not contact Pete Bell (BAS) for the definitive answer? I've found his response time to be almost instant if you use the BAS website
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22nd Aug 2017 1:53pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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Thanks Jonny, I have put in 3 tanks from different stations since this started, no change.
I have also reverted back to the factory map, and re-did the pump & pilot re-learn, and it was actually worse this morning! 
let's assume it's one or more injectors - what readings can I take with my IID tool to confirm/deny this? Thanks! -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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23rd Aug 2017 6:43am |
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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834
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Sorry to hear that.
Just a thought, I've swapped maps several times and each time it seems to take a few trips before everything settles down. The map seems to need a few "driving cycles" to get everything working properly. Bit of a long shot but may be worth a try. |
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23rd Aug 2017 11:45am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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thanks, will leave it on the factory map for a few days and see.
Funnily, I swear I couldn't tell the difference between the two maps when I drove this morning. And yet, I do recall how different the truck felt when I had to swap the maps for the services at the dealership. -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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23rd Aug 2017 1:32pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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I have contacted BAS, who kindly offered to send me LR software updates prior to switching my remap from the old interface to the IID tool.
top service --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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23rd Aug 2017 1:53pm |
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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834
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Pete gives a service that is truly above and beyond
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23rd Aug 2017 4:48pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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Went to my mechanic yesterday, we checked over a few things.
The diagnosis is injectors are on their way out... but I'm running a tank on Wurth Diesel Cleaner first in case it was just bad diesel clogging the injector tips. If not, R22k bill for 4 injectors. So much for buying the new Oppo 205  --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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24th Aug 2017 10:21am |
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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834
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Ouch - around £1300.00
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24th Aug 2017 11:20am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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can anyone tell me if those readings look normal?
1. Cold Start Click image to enlarge 2. Warmed up at 80kmh Click image to enlarge -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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25th Aug 2017 11:26am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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chaps, I ran a scan yesterday and the following came up, but will not clear + the dates are completely wrong.
What is going on here? -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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27th Aug 2017 6:59am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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anyone?
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2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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28th Aug 2017 9:40am |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2638
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Can anyone tell me whether a fuel rail temperature of 26C is normal at cold startsup when the ambient temperature is around 10C?
Click image to enlarge thanks -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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