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For and against fitting sill rock sliders.
For fitting rock sliders.
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Against fitting rock sliders
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zsd-puma



Member Since: 09 Aug 2016
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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
apt100 wrote:
^^
I'm with you on that.
When I go off-road it is generally agricultural land, so I'm not bothered about off-road protection (as there aren't really any large boulders/trees around).
What I would like is better on-road protection for the driver and passenger without losing the convenience of the existing side steps.
There is definitely a gap in the current offerings (at least that I am aware of).


The nearest i've found are the Mantec ones which are compatible with the factory side tubes or folding steps. But the side tubes don't stick out far enough on standard sills really and the folding steps start to look manky very quickly.
Post #645152 19th Aug 2017 9:51pm
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apt100



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It's the standard XS side tubes that I have. Agreed they don't stick out very far, but they came factory fitted and are better than nothing for Thumbs Up I'll have a look at the Mantec thanks.
Post #645157 19th Aug 2017 9:59pm
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Paulv8



Member Since: 09 Jun 2013
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1989 Defender 90 V8 Petrol CSW Alpine White
Horneteer wrote:
Paulv8 wrote:
I want some sliders, but preferably want the tube to be chunkier than the ones Brendan sells if possible? Any clues where I might find some?


How about these?

http://www.rock-sliders.co.uk/landrover-de...iders.html


The last ones I bought off them were poorly finished, and poorly wrapped. There customer service was also terrible. V8 90...WIP
Post #645163 19th Aug 2017 10:58pm
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nosnibod



Member Since: 15 Aug 2007
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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Bronze Green
A few years back I ordered these via Brendan. They act as sliders, door protectors and as a step with some grip tape added.

The quality is top-notch - galvanised and powder-coated.


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 Dave
Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi
Post #645187 20th Aug 2017 7:29am
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ericvv



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Post #645188 20th Aug 2017 8:17am
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nosnibod



Member Since: 15 Aug 2007
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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Bronze Green
The idea was to have something standard-looking, but rather more robust and just low enough to use as a side step for SWMBO, as well as being longer to provide more side protection - you'll notice that they overlap the front mudflaps and extend a bit further back too.

They were much heavier duty than the standard ones, and with very robust brackets attaching them to the outriggers. I remember being shocked at how heavy they were and I used the jack when fitting them!

I've sold that Defender now but I would have had no qualms whatsoever about how tough they were. Dave
Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi
Post #645191 20th Aug 2017 8:25am
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leeds



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Hi Eric, if you look at the R + T sliders on my red 110 which has been off road tested Razz and survived are the same manufacturers as the Nonsibods one.

So I am pretty confident that they will stand up to most peoples use. OK they are probably not suitable for winch competition use.

Now whilst a lot of R + T sliders may look the same with a wide range of prices. Things to look for include number of supports for the tree slider, are jacking points included, finish. Hot dipped galv is the best route prior to cleaning, primer and then top powder coat. Hot dip galv is not a cheap process!




Brendan
Post #645196 20th Aug 2017 10:35am
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Hello Brendan, I'm sure that you are right about all that, but when I saw nosnibod's picture it very much looks like the classical side step you see there. Rock sliders from various suppliers are usually a totally different look, rectangular tubes instead of these round steps (or sliders) here, and mounted higher up just under the door bottoms. A bit surprised to see that there exist actual sliders like in this picture. About the same shape and install height as my own side steps. And mine are definitely not suitable to go rock sliding. Laughing
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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zsd-puma



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ericvv wrote:
^^ Those look very much like regular side steps. Have you ever tested them as real sliders?
Eric


I thought the same, but it depends on what they attach to. If they have heavy brackets attaching them to the chassis outriggers then that's where normal 'jackable sill' type rock sliders bolt to.
Post #645240 20th Aug 2017 4:41pm
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nosnibod



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United Kingdom 1998 Defender 110 300 Tdi SW Bronze Green
They have enormous great brackets attaching them to the outriggers with several bolts. The sliders then attach to the brackets using slotted bolt holes - presumably to make up for Land Rover manufacturing tolerances.

It makes for a very solid setup. I did try using the hi-lift jack under them to lift one side of the 110 with no problems whatsoever - and that 110 wasn't light...

If I still had that 110 I'd have taken some photos. Dave
Green Goddess - 1998 Defender 110 300tdi
Post #645244 20th Aug 2017 4:58pm
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leeds



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I do not have any photos of nonisbod 'steps'

They are a modified 110 version of these

Tubular under sill rock sliders!

They may look like conventional steps but if Safari Equip describe them as rock sliders I would be reasonably confident that they will take a reasonable whack. They maynot be the most suitable rock sliders for winch competition but am sure they will cope with most peoples requirements.


Brendan
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Retroanaconda



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My 110 came with these. Not sure what make they are, might be home made. Very solid.

Undecided as to whether they will go back on yet.
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Lodelaner



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United Kingdom 1988 Defender 90 V8 Petrol ST Shire Blue
I've done a bit of laning and I've never damaged a sill in 30 yrs of Land Rovering across 3 continents in the 13 Land Rovers I've owned.

I have fitted Southdown jackable sills to a V8 50th - in retrospect a complete waste of time and money. Just for the look really.

But if the look makes you feel good, do it. But don't kid yourself that you need them. JB

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Kit



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United Kingdom 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi SW Scotia Grey
On the other end of the spectrum, there's me who had a split fuel tank, damaged sill and a dent in the chassis (from the previous owner) 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top
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Lodelaner



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Careless... fuel tank sits below the sill.. as does the chassis. JB

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