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| bluebottle Member Since: 08 May 2015 Location: Not in my Landy enough! Posts: 705  
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If I recall correctly, they're built under licence, series underpinnings (leaf springs) and Stage 1 V8 derived bodywork so have a very Defender look...
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13th Aug 2017 11:48pm |
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| Vintagepaul Member Since: 20 Jan 2015 Location: Rye, East Sussex Posts: 482 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santana_Motor 2015 Defender 90XS HT
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14th Aug 2017 4:21am |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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They're a Spanish company who had a licence to build Series 3 Land Rovers, Land Rover ended the contract with the Series 3, but Santana still chose to develop the basic design themselves. So they're basically series 3 chassis with leaf springs and newer engines and bits of body work fitted.
The safari doors on them are a bit bigger, they were eventually bought out by Fiat group and the car evolved into the Iveco Massif. |
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14th Aug 2017 4:33am |
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| benniferj Member Since: 20 Oct 2016 Location: Basingstoke Posts: 361 
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I occasionally see one and think it would be quite a fun cheap run around - I'm vaguely looking for a LR110 just for running around in and working on a few muddy work sites - Is it mad to consider one, and are they even possible to maintain or are the parts choices that weird and random that its not worth the hassle?
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14th Aug 2017 7:03am |
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| Pilgrimmick Member Since: 16 Nov 2015 Location: Highlands Posts: 582
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I have a 57 plate lwb pick up. Pulls like a train ans very solid, much more so than a 110. Windscreen is deeper, door seals better, and pick up cab bigger, so much more leg room, just do not use it any more as not worth taxing it for the use it was getting. 80" 1948
Lightweight V8 Bowler Tomcat 130 Station wagon 90 300tdi (Santana PS10 pick up) Range Rover L322 (Ful fat) |
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14th Aug 2017 12:48pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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The more recent ones have the 3l diesel out of the Daily van.
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14th Aug 2017 4:51pm |
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| RoddyK05 Member Since: 08 Apr 2015 Location: Inverclyde Posts: 633  
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Santana also built the Suzuki SJ 410 under contract. My old SJ had a plate in the footwell proclaiming it was built by Landrover Santana. The 410 was called a suzuki Santana whereas the 413 was the Suzuki samurai and was built in Japan if I recall correctly. There are a couple of Santana's local to me, they seem to work well and don't look like they are rotting away as you look at them.
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14th Aug 2017 5:02pm |
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| corgi1 Member Since: 26 Feb 2017 Location: bucks Posts: 440  
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thanks for the info gents
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15th Aug 2017 9:52pm |
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| steveyorks Member Since: 08 Apr 2013 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 183 
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The engines are apparently very good but I looked at a couple and they were fairly badly rotted given their age ( even compared to a defender) though of course they may have just been bad ones.
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19th Aug 2017 10:02pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720
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i suppose part of that could just be because they're cheap, they get a harder life than the equivalent Defender.
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19th Aug 2017 10:59pm |
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| lambert.the.farmer Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: harrogate Posts: 2006 
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Again under licence, santana built the soft top Jimny and whilst they are older cars now the youngest being best part of 13 years old they were definitely not built with rain and snow and salt in mind, much better suited to the nice dry expanse of Spain. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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20th Aug 2017 7:19pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3566 
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Did I read somewhere that Santana had gone bankrupt a few years back?
There was a bit in one of the Land Rover magazines maybe 18 months ago? Can play great guitar though  |
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20th Aug 2017 7:26pm |
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| EWG Member Since: 20 Sep 2015 Location: Betws y Coed, North Wales Posts: 102 
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[i
 Click image to enlargemg] Here's a photo of the pick up version which was described in an earlier post. The correct name was Santana PS10 and they came in van, pick up and their own equivalent of a CSW. The chassis was sprung by parabolics, engine was an Iveco 2.8 litre turbo diesel, 5 speed gearbox,and four wheel drive was as on Series3 - selectable. I very nearly bought an ex demonstrator pick up in the same colour as above. I drove it to try and it had a lot going for it. The interior was good, seats comfortable but it all felt fragile. That Iveco engine was better than a 300Tdi and it pulled like a train but I didn't like the ride and I doubted it's ability to tow the rated 3 tonne (I think) trailer load safely. In the event I bought an ex United Utilities Defender 300Tdi. Quite a few locals did buy one, and I mean just the one. The reaction I heard was that the engine and gearbox were excellent but most of the rest was pants. The parabolic springs felt unmatched and more than one snapped a front halfshaft. Warranty claims took a long time because parts had to be imported from Spain. Dealers were to operate a "just in time" spares availability and there were no Santana dealers here in North Wales. The next major problem was rust. They were built of what some said was a poor grade thin steel which rotted quickly. Doors, rear doors and tailgates, rear panels, front wings, floors all suffered but the chassis which was teflon or plastic coated survived well. There is only one left around here now - ten years after they were last sold new - ironically the same one I drove in 2008 and that says it all.[/img] |
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20th Aug 2017 8:13pm |
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| Rosco Member Since: 03 Dec 2010 Location: Burntwood Posts: 1847 
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Those are some pretty large arch apertures
Is axle articulation really that big on them? 2007 - Stornoway Grey 90 XS SW - Gone 2002 - Black Discovery II - Gone 2014 - Montalcino Red 110 XS SW |
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21st Aug 2017 12:28pm |
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