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Bluest



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Leaky swivels
Just been giving the old girl a once over and noticed both swivels seem to be leaking, drivers side worse than the other. What's the consensus, replace just the seals or replace other stuff like bearings whilst I'm in there? There's no sign of any bearing trouble at the minute. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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MK



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You can inspect bearings and then decide. I replace all seals/Orings though. Puma 110" SW

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zsd-puma



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What i would do first is get under there with some brake cleaner and a stiff brush and give them a good scrub.

Mine were plastered in grease and gunge when i bought it, so i assumed the swivel seals were shot. But they barely leak at all, it's just a gradual build up over years. I was ready to replace mine, until i cleaned them, any leak was so gradual it wasn't worth worrying about.
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Bluest



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Good tip, heading out with a bucket of gunk and old brush now. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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If they ain't leaking that much , just top up when needed Thumbs Up
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Bluest



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This might sound a bit dense, but how do you know how much to add? Is it regular CV grease? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Keen to learn about this but for now will say that depending on the year CV grease gets put in the CVs directly, then it gets mixed up with a pouch of 'one shot' which is thinner in consistency.

You could guess a top-up amount which I think (?) takes it up to the hole itself (3/8" drive), or drain and replace, but in that case I'd wonder how much of the CV specific grease gets would come out with it ? Solved the bowel problem, working on the consonants...
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You only fill to the hole when using oil rather than grease. Filling to that level with grease would be 'bad'. That's why the one shot packets are the size they are. Darren

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Bluest



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So really, if you've lost an unknown amount of grease you've no real choice other than to strip, clean, rebuild and refill from scratch.. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Marks Landy



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I cannot see any reason not to top up the swivel with one shot grease.
Fill to spill
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Not really, put some oil in it, take it for a drive, drain the oil, refill with one pack of one shot. Not hard is it, surely ?
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The later grease filled swivels only have the filler bung, there's no drain or level hole. So draining them out isn't as easy as that.

You could fill it with oil drive it around a bit then take the whole hub/swivel assy off and tip the oil/grease mix out of the fill hole.
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zsd-puma



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Marks Landy wrote:
I cannot see any reason not to top up the swivel with one shot grease.
Fill to spill


It will likely all just get blown past the axle seal and go into the axle.

Unlike older hubs. There's no level plug on grease filled swivels.
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